Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>^^ I wouldn't agree with the best thing outside the berm comment - the two water pars and DCL is far superior IMHO.<< I'll agree on DCL, I've enjoyed all 4 of my sailings. Water parks....nah...I'll trade either of them to get AC back. But then, I've also agreed to trade Epcot for the AC, so you can see where my heart lies. lol
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ You will love the Dream then - the ship is amazing. I just don't get the obsessive attachment that folks have for stuff like AC. Each to their own.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Well, if they are so into restaurants, wouldn't a AC restaurant make sense with a SMALL bit of entertainment?
Originally Posted By SeventyOne ^ Except that, outside the "Rocky Horror" fans, a great deal of the humor in the Club depended on the fact it WAS a bar. Things like Babylona or the Mask Room only work with a decent number of slightly tipsy people who have no idea what they've walked into. Leemac, the obsessiveness is partly due to quality--I would argue the Club surpasses anything even in the parks, given its scale--and partly due to the fact that the Club was basically "Cheers" for the hard-core Disney fans. There was a sense of community/belonging in the Club you're not going to find anywhere else. [However, I have no excuse for my obsession with "If You Had Wings."]
Originally Posted By Manfried "If you had wings. If you had wings." It was a great little ride for its time. Claude Coats did a great job with a small budget. "Delta Dreamflight" was a boring corporate message no one went on. Buzz Lightyear was a fantastic reuse. And still is.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Buzz Lightyear was a fantastic reuse. And still is.>> Please, Buzz is a joke in this day and time.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<Buzz Lightyear was a fantastic reuse. And still is.>> Please, Buzz is a joke in this day and time. ------------------ there is a huge demographic - age wise that does not view Buzz as you do... state of the art, no, a joke, certainly not.....
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Considering there are two attractions in the area that make it look like a common carnival ride, I'll respectfully disagree.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 that's fine..however again there are a lot of kids say age 6-14 or so I know that adore that ride ...not everything is going to be state of the art. TTA a perfect example and it's in that area also
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Sure, but TTA also isn't at carnival ride quality. It's 2010, almost 2011. Cardboard cut-outs just don't cut it anymore.
Originally Posted By Manfried And since WDW is intended for families and not just Disney diehard fans, I am happy that Buzz is there.
Originally Posted By Manfried Just like in art, every Disney attraction does not have to have nor is required to have fully realized dimensional sets. There is something to be said for having things done in a more abstract way.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<And since WDW is intended for families and not just Disney diehard fans, I am happy that Buzz is there.>> So you're saying families don't enjoy the ride that's significantly better than Buzz aka TSMM? Odd. I could have sworn the 2 hour long lines would indicate differently. I really don't get what you're trying to say here.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Just like in art, every Disney attraction does not have to have nor is required to have fully realized dimensional sets. There is something to be said for having things done in a more abstract way.>> I'd hardly call crappy cutouts "abstract".
Originally Posted By dshyates I personally like Buzz a lot better than TSMM. But that's not to say I really like Buzz. I have yet to figure out the appeal of TSMM. It has no sets, not even plywood flats. It is just a Wii game with a ride vehicle.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself Buzz was rendered useless the day Men in Black opened over at Uni. Same basic idea, done so much better. I pass on Buzz, though for a reuse done quickly and cheaply...eh...I guess it serves it's purpose.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I have yet to figure out the appeal of TSMM. It has no sets, not even plywood flats. It is just a Wii game with a ride vehicle.>> It's a hell of a lot of fun. And even though there's no sets at least the inside doesn't look laughable like Buzz. That being said, I'll never wait more than 30 minutes for it. So basically if I don't get a fastpass I don't go on it.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Buzz was rendered useless the day Men in Black opened over at Uni. Same basic idea, done so much better.>> MiB is so far a head of Buzz it's like Buzz was built in 1900. MiB is by far one of the best attractions in Orlando.
Originally Posted By Manfried Well if Men in Black is so far ahead of Buzz I take it that means you won't be coming to Disney in the near future. Good.
