Originally Posted By berol "Al was never *this* down on Disney" He was so down on Disney that a lawsuit from them wouldn't have surprised me in the slightest.
Originally Posted By berol "Miceage won't report on official Disney press releases, like the stuff happening with WDI in Anaheim if they don't like the information for some reason." see post 91
Originally Posted By PeterPan1313 >>>which you are just as guilty of. You make up stories to be the center of attention. You don't get to bash MC about lying when you are no better. Cinderella being the first Disney princess, that's why the 60th will be around her....pphhfffttt.<<< I say that my stuff is a rumor, and it's info that I get from a number of friends, Disney is a big company. I post it because some of it might come true. I've gotten the feeling over the past couple months that CMs in Disneyland, and even other Disney parks, are more aware of the fan sites, (as opposed to the brass who have better things to do), and might be passing on info just to see if it gets picked up by somebody, whether it is true or not.
Originally Posted By berol You rarely say anything is a rumor. When you do, it's usually long after the fact. What I quoted in 102 isn't a rumor and is made up.
Originally Posted By PeterPan1313 >>>He was so down on Disney that a lawsuit from them wouldn't have surprised me in the slightest.<<< Personally I see a big difference in styles: Al Lutz Yes, he didn't like the penny-pinching sharp pencil boys, but there was a sense that he was 'one of us', one of the diehard Disney fans who love the details and the parks but also are concerned about upkeep and stuff. His articles may have been done on management, but they always celebrated the parks, if that makes sense, and there was a jovial tone to them. The current Miceage crew seems to have taken Al's dislike of the park management, and generalized it into this cloud of free floating anger directed at Disney at large, the fans who like the parks, and are going as far as keeping interesting developments at Disneyland "out of the news" as far as Miceage is concerned. Miceage's number one goal is to make fans *hate* Disney, with the glib 'Alice in Blunderland' posts, and the snakiness regarding the Subs and how the attraction was finished and didn't wow guests anymore. I don't think there's much thought or work going on with Miceage these days, a lot of the stuff is recycled. One of the Disneyland updates had just a couple pictures and rambling nonsense about the AP passes and stuff.
Originally Posted By PeterPan1313 >>>You rarely say anything is a rumor. When you do, it's usually long after the fact. What I quoted in 102 isn't a rumor and is made up.<<< Pretty sure I label my stuff as a "rumor", or what is admittedly hearsay.
Originally Posted By doombuggy "Pretty sure I label my stuff as a "rumor", or what is admittedly hearsay." Your ridiculous laundry list of what you "heard" was sooooooooo made up by you. The Disney company would NEVER make the stupid blunder you did saying the 60th will be based around Cindy cause she was the first princess. They know their own history but you don't you need to realize folks here know the Disney company and it's history VERY VERY well.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Cinderella was not the first Disney Princess, PeterPan1313, duckling. If you don't know that then it makes some of us question your general knowledge of things. ORDDU: As for all the petty disagreements between Dusty Sage and Malin, that just goes to show how pointless it is to let things go as far as they went. Obviously there is more than a mere disagreement between those two. They seem to hate each other and that goes way beyond the original point that was being made, here. Again, everyone would be a lot better off if they just didn't take the various fan sites so seriously that it led to such unpleasant behavior. ORGOCH: Seems ta me some folks was just lookin' fer trouble an' it sure didn't take 'em long ta find it!!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 >>>presenting rumors as rumors and possible future developments as possible future developments and calling them exactly that.<<< <Miceage wouldn't do that. > Currently they don't, generally. I just said that they could improve their reputation if they did.
Originally Posted By PeterPan1313 >>>Your ridiculous laundry list of what you "heard" was sooooooooo made up by you. The Disney company would NEVER make the stupid blunder you did saying the 60th will be based around Cindy cause she was the first princess. They know their own history but you don't you need to realize folks here know the Disney company and it's history VERY VERY well.<<< I'm not a princess fanatic, but I've heard tidbits about what they've been thinking about the 60th. Here are some points to consider: 1. The "Disney Company" is not a monolithic being, a lot of people who work for Disney don't know all the trivia. This is the case of group think on the part of those who think that you need to be a Disney fanatic to work for Disney. 2. The info I heard I probably jumbled, the person probably said something along the lines of "Cinderella as Your First Disney princess", or something like that and I made an error as I just posted the info without thinking about it much. I'm happy to admit my mistakes, Miceage . . . not so much. 3. Cindy is one of the most popular princesses, I think. Anyway, what I've heard is that at least one working group was tossing around the idea of "Her First" in connection with Cinderella, such as: Her First Carriage/Pumpkin Ride Her First Ball Her First Princess Costume Her First Princess (I guess a little girl watching a Disney princess movie for the first time or something.) Her First Kiss They're still thinking about several special 24 hr. Cinderella's Pumpkin Bash/Ball, or whatever they call it. With a park-wide transformation effect at midnight and special pumpkin treats such as pumpkin flavored bakery items.
Originally Posted By PeterPan1313 >>> Cinderella was not the first Disney Princess, PeterPan1313, duckling. If you don't know that then it makes some of us question your general knowledge of things. <<< Of course I know that Snow White was the first full-length animated Disney film, and hence Snow White was the first princess. I've read tons of Disney books, but obviously let a factual error slip-by as I relayed the info. See, that's how people admit their mistakes, something Miceage will never do. We get the old, "Disney changes their minds every second", even though it is obvious that Miceage is making stuff up. With Al Lutz, Miceage was performing a service for the fans, with the updates and some insider info, and with pointing out park maintenance issues. But the current incarnation of Miceage seems more focused on petty fights with Disney fans and with the Disney company, and with pushing their vision for the park which invariably involves the removal of beloved attractions to make way for a coaster. I knew about the club 33 expansion *way* before Miceage (way before a lot of folks ;-)), , and I actually know whose idea it was to 'refresh' the FL attractions for the 60th. I'll post an updated version of what I hear is evolving for the 60th, and I'm sure you'll be happy to lounge around the Goofy statue eating pumpkin flavored jelly beans or sipping a pumpkin flavored concoction waiting for the Bibbidi Bobbidi Boom fireworks just like everybody else and will forget who told you in the first place, not that that's the point of all of this.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt What about Space Mountain? Is it still grimy? Did they change anything during the closure?
Originally Posted By berol "Your ridiculous laundry list of what you "heard" was sooooooooo made up by you" That was also made up since you couldn't know it for a fact.
Originally Posted By doombuggy it's called using logic, so yes I do know as fact. This guy can do all the back peddling he wants. He hasn't heard any thing from any body If so then whom? name names.
Originally Posted By doombuggy OOHHHHHH I get whats going on. PP has done nothing but bash MC in the 6 months he's been on..here's why (columbo impression) PP goes to MC says he has "inside" information and asked if he can write for them. MC says no thanks so he signs up here to bash and make up stuff passing it off as "I've heard" Knowing that he won't get edited but he didn't count on one little thing.......LP'ers aren't that gullible.
Originally Posted By berol You had to make something up to fill in the gaps since logic doesn't close the other possibilities.
Originally Posted By Bellella FYI, Cinderella was my first Disney princess, only because she was the first one I ever saw. Alice in Wonderland. I'm surprised I'm surprised. I saw that video, thanks for the heads up. I don't think the changes were that warranted. At all. But they do kind of work pretty well. The flying cards around the Queen of Hearts make her look even more mad. But couldn't they at LEAST have kept the disembodied floating head of the Cheshire Cat? Do you have any idea how cool that was, going over the leaves and back into the castle, floating straight down to that thing, then making a quick turn into the Mad Tea Party? Oh, why.
Originally Posted By believe >>>>> Let me re print some qoutes from a private message that I had received from Dusty after I made a comment on the site about it's crediblity slipping away regarding the Subs closure... And you tell me afterwards if the tone and response is justified by a fan site only posting rumours and speculation. <<<<< How about quoting the comment that YOU made that set Dusty off ??? It would be nice to see the other side of it.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: I was wondering about that very same thing, believe, duckling. I highly suspect that Malin wasn't totally innocent in whatever he said to Dustysage to begin with.
