Originally Posted By monorailblue I can't read PP1313's posts any more. I have to just skip over them. They make my brain hurt. As I see more pictures and videos of Alice, I'm less enthused about the exterior work. I would scrap the scrollwork, and I would scrap the leaves on the railing. I've decided both are too much. A few decorations on the railing would be nice, but it is just too much, I think. Can't wait to see it in person . . . when I can afford it . . . maybe in 2018.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "How about quoting the comment that YOU made that set Dusty off ??? It would be nice to see the other side of it." Does it matter? There's no justification for that kind of outrage from someone operating a Disney fan site. Again, assuming it's true his snarky email speaks volumes about his character.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: It's true that Dustysage has a sharp tongue when he chooses too. And I certainly wouldn't have responded to anyone the way he did. But I've also read some of Malin's comments on Mice Chat from the past and wasn't impressed with how he attacked others either. So they both have a lot to learn about tact.
Originally Posted By Malin *** Disney fandom sure does have its share of crackpots, doesn't it? Malin's letter, assuming it's authentic, is completely over the top. *** I understand the reason to question it's authenticity. Especially with how over the top it is but I swear to you this is a genuine message from Dusty. *** But they tend to present things as fact, i.e. "The subs will not be coming back after they close." Then, when this turns out to be untrue, they just fall back on "Disney changed their minds." *** Exactly this is my issue with them. Yes Disney does change it's mind but not on the scale MiceChat wants us to believe. It's just an excuse for reporting wrong information. Fact is when the CEO is dismissing the Subs rumour like Bob Iger publicly did at the Shareholders Meeting and the site is still claiming to be right then it's ego and ignorance is just too much. When Dusty is canceling accounts and sending threatening messages for anyone questioning the site you have on your hands a very paranoid individual. Who feels Disney is out to discredit them but being the hero he is to the Disney online comunity this will not prevent him from reporting questionable information.
Originally Posted By Malin *** As for all the petty disagreements between Dusty Sage and Malin, that just goes to show how pointless it is to let things go as far as they went. Obviously there is more than a mere disagreement between those two. They seem to hate each other and that goes way beyond the original point that was being made, here. *** I don't hate Dusty because I have never met or spoken to the guy. You might like to think it's something more that has caused this event but sadly it's not!!! Dusty just can't seem to handle people questioning the crediblity of what him and Norman report. I challenge anyone to post a message in the comments section when the next update is posted questioning what's being reported and wait to see the response. The site is more heavily censored then what the Parks Blog is because at least Disney will post negative comments like the anger over the fountains closing at the Poly. Nothing negative will be tolerated by the site. That's why you will only view positive comments to the MiceChat articles. Truly a site posting rumours and encouraging feedback would welcome all sides of discussion.
Originally Posted By Malin *** How about quoting the comment that YOU made that set Dusty off ??? It would be nice to see the other side of it. *** I can't offer an exact qoute because the comments were deleted. But it was something along lines of "Bob Iger has said that the Subs will be returning which contradicts what has been reported here. Credibility slipping away..."
Originally Posted By Malin *** But I've also read some of Malin's comments on Mice Chat from the past and wasn't impressed with how he attacked others either. So they both have a lot to learn about tact. *** I think your own views on European's need to be thought through properly before commenting on what other people write
Originally Posted By phruby Getting back to the Alice improvements. It seems to me if Disney did the same things to the DL Pooh ride, it could be better than the MK version. It needs video and projections like Alice got. If they could make the vehicles bounce with Tigger it could be a lot of fun.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance They could do a lot with Pooh to make it better. The whole ride seems to have so much open space and area to work with. But at least the Alice improvements show that no matter how old an attraction is, there is always hope for additions/improvements to be made down the line.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA The Winnie the Pooh ride is just a disaster from top to bottom, IMO. From the location in Critter Country, to keeping the existing show building, to the odd and disjointed story line -- ecchh, what a mess.
Originally Posted By phruby Adding animation and the bounce effect would be a good start. Too bad it's not trackless. The effalump & woozal scene could be hugely enhanced with projection and cars that turn and move around by themselves. I wonder why they couldn't use both theaters? Maybe combine the two for something more fitting?
Originally Posted By DlandDug What, no love for OUR coverage??? <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.laughingplace.com/w/articles/2014/07/04/alice-in-wonderland-reopens-at-disneyland/">http://www.laughingplace.com/w...neyland/</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "What, no love for OUR coverage??? IKR? Even Alice was shocked and dismayed. <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.laughingplace.com/w/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/092.jpg">http://www.laughingplace.com/w.../092.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By monorailblue Dug: I'll apologize for my part. In my thoughtless mind, LP is "what's left" of the main Disney fan message board that used to get hundreds of posts a day and sometimes posted articles. It's hard to think of it as the reverse: news with great frequency, very little mesaage-board traffic. I'll do better. And, hey! Excellent coverage of the Alice reopening!!!
Originally Posted By Bellella I thought they gutted the whole show building for the Pooh ride, which by the way seems big enough to fill both theaters. And the only thing good about that ride is the music. R.I.P. Henry, Wendell, Trixie, Big Al, et al.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>And, hey! Excellent coverage of the Alice reopening!!<< Thank you. I had planned to head down to the park on the morning of July 4 to catch the opening, and was a bit nonplussed to find it was doing a roaring business on the 3rd. (I had gone in to catch the Guardians of the Galaxy sneak peek for APs.) So the video and photos actually went to the site that night, and were posted on the 4th. Meanwhile, everyone was already hashing over other videos from other sites that also caught the soft open.
Originally Posted By Malin LaughingPlace has unfortunately become a forgotten site. A lot of people instantly head for one of the other sites when Disneyland has news to share. Hoping the expansion of the site will prevent this from happening soon. Because people like you DlanDug work too hard covering the Parks to not be recognise by people on the sites own message boards.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<Too bad it's not trackless. The effalump & woozal scene could be hugely enhanced>> Making Pooh trackless would merely enhance the ride by adding the ninth (?) wonder of the world: the backside of nothing. The only "enhancement" would be seeing the blank/unfinished backs of all the flats and ride elements. What you currently see is ALL that's there. Try riding it while looking backward next time, I doubt you'd call it an enhancement. (Although you will see the tribute to the CBJ - on a plain wall) <<I wonder why they couldn't use both theaters?>> The current ride DOES use both theaters.
