Originally Posted By ChiMike Yes. In a way. I'm torn on this one. I think Disney does a good service to it's guests and itself by offering tickets with significant discounts on extra days. They simply could not have done that if the resale market was not curbed.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN The only reason why Disney curbed the resale market is because they were loosing money. Some guests would buy resold tixs instead of buying new one as full cost and benefit for Disney's coffers.
Originally Posted By Roger55 Do you think the need for a "anti-cheat" system is less at TDR because of the ethical behavior of the Japanese society in general? It is my impression that petty theft and crime in general is much lower in Japan. There is always a cost associated with loss prevention. So somewhere, someone has figured out that the cost of a biometric system is less than the amount of lost revenue if there was not such a system in place. Biometric readers for sure is NOT a selling feature to the public.
Originally Posted By ChiMike I agree. The thing with the new Magic Your Way tickets though was that somebody could have bought a 10 day ticket, used 6 days, and sold the remaining 4 days to someone new. Since those last 4 days cost the 1st person $30 or whatever extra dollars, it puts Disney at a huge disadvanatage. Don't get me wrong, Disney was not happy with the resale market. However, it was the MYW ticket scheme that required them to use scanners for ALL guests.
Originally Posted By hopemax From my experience, on my three trips last year, the biggest thing seemed that the tickets wouldn't read properly and not enough CMs. You would stick them in, and they would spit back out immediately (before you could even put your fingers in). I know how to do the finger thing, and several times it wouldn't take. The CM would come, rub the magnetic strip, and then it would work, so I started doing that myself. BUT there would be one CM working 2 or 3 turnstyles, so for people who didn't know you needed to warm up the ticket when it was cold, you would end up waiting, until the CM could get over to you. I'm not sure how one finger is going to help this.
Originally Posted By ChiMike oops. my agreement to TDLFAN _-_ Roger, I think it has more to do with the fact the TDR is not as cheap. They don't need to do what WDW has done with the MYW scheme. Of course, I prefer the TDR situation, but I don't blame WDW.
Originally Posted By ChiMike ^^ Let me also say, that TDR is better off for keeping their prices high. I wish WDW would raise theirs. -- >>I'm not sure how one finger is going to help this.<< I'm not sure either, but there was a reason for the switch. Especially after Disney recently installed more of the two-finger panels. They must be confident that things will get better.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I've never been able to understand the difficulty some people apparently have with making a V with your index and middle fingers and sticking it in the machine. Out of the dozens of times I've used the system, I've had to re-insert my finger maybe 2 or 3 times. I guess there is something I'm just not seeing.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Well if you have to do it 2 or 3 times, obviously you're not seeing the machine. ;-)
Originally Posted By RoadTrip ^^^ Yuk, yuk, yuk. ;-) That would be 2 or 3 mistakes out of DOZENS of uses. I use it well. (And those few mistakes were probably because of where my fingers had been since I last washed them...) LOL Just kidding...
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy <that would be 2 or 3 mistakes out of DOZENS of uses. I use it well.> D'oh! You're right...I misread it. *sigh*, off to Komedy Klass 101 with Kar2oonMan to once again study the works of the greats friendofdd, wahooskipper, TomSawyer, etc...
Originally Posted By alexbook >>Do you think the need for a "anti-cheat" system is less at TDR because of the ethical behavior of the Japanese society in general?<< DLR doesn't have this system yet, either. I'm betting they're still trying to work the bugs out, then they'll roll it out worldwide.
Originally Posted By Roger55 DLR does not have as many multi day visitors like WDW. If DLR was selling 4-5 day park hoppers, my guess they would have a similar system in place. As far as world wide roll out, I doubt OLC would just follow along with what the other Disney parks are doing. I'm sure the financial doings of TDR are completly up to OLC. The previous system had been in place for years, and it was never rolled out to other parks.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN You people have been conditioned to think the "WDW way". Throw your expectations out the door kiddies... This is the reason why such gizmos are NOT needed at TDR (Remember..It's OLC runing the show and making better decisions over WDC here...) The REASON why OLC doesn't need to do finger scanning or be concerned about resales of tickets at TDR is because.... (drum roll please)... MULTIDAY PASSES AT TDR ARE SOLD ***DATED***!!!! Meaning... when you buy your 2, 3 or 4 day passport, you *MUST* specify what days you will be using it for. WDW's problems begans when they started offering multi-day passes with open dates. No ticket at WDW, as far as I know, is sold with a "date to visit" attached to them, which is the single reason why resales of multiday passes and cheating the system has always been a posibility they have had to work hard to fend off... As for OLC.. they still sell "Open date" tickets but are restricted to only single day passports ONLY. So once you use an open date ticket, IT'S DONE!! Get this concept???? Now read TDR's ticket policy and weep: -One-Day, Senior and Starlight Passports are available as either dated tickets or open tickets. Multi-Day Passports and After 6 Passports are available as dated tickets only. -Dated tickets may be purchased up to 2 months in advance. -An open ticket is valid for one year from date of purchase. -On days of high attendance, Guests holding open tickets may be requested to delay their entry into the Park. Any questions????
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>Well if you have to do it 2 or 3 times, obviously you're not seeing the machine<< Oh Please...Gimme a break and go play with you muppets!! I have been sticking my fingers into those filthy scanners since they rolled the idea for APers 3 or 4 years ago!! I know how to use them darn machines. Yet, on Memorial Day, the turnstyle would not read my pass or fingers and the CM was trying to tell me how to do the scanner, to which I replied to him..."I have been doing this since they started this torture, and I know how to use the scanner. It's your system that sucks and it's inefficient." He didn't like that at all.. but oh well!!!
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Ack! sorry, COUSIN!!! *sheepishly tiptoes away to give his cousin some space*
