Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<My DLP Fracillian AP cost only 99 Euros. And they didn't check ID, though I had a French student ID. >> Yeah, that is a phenomenal price, but it was blacked out most of stay ... and I am not a student in France, although if I could go back a few years I'd change that.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<After losing 70 lbs since september I have bad meal a week to keep my sanity. I know I won't lose it as fast. But as - know this will be a couple of years project, it's a start.>> WOW!!! That's a lot of weight. I might not recognize ya next time It is a struggle. I've lost about half what you have over the past 18 months, but in a given week, I can put back 3-4 pounds easily. But boy do I love putting on clothes that I bought a few (or more) years ago that didn't fit at all and now they either are a bit snug or fit. <<What is really worrying is I was already skinnier than some WDW visitors before I started!>> Sadly, Dave we both know WDW has the largest concentration of morbidly obese people I've ever seen. What Africa is starvation, WDW is to gluttony. And adding apple slices with kids meals isn't gonna do a damn thing about it. I actually spoke with a health writer and suggested a story (one not blaming Disney because it clearly isn't their fault) and when they broached the subject with someone from Disney PR ... well, let's just say it wasn't pretty! <<But thanks for the prompt ann, it does help.>> I'm just thankful that Ann wants to dine with me again in such high-end digs. I promise to use my silverware this time! <<And yes, diet drinks taste like plastic, I miss chocolate and desserts and hate this condition. For all of you with weight problems, please do not ignore it, or you might end up like me and getting down at the prospect of the holidays etc>> I hate diet drinks, Dave. Can't stand Diet Coke. Barely tolerate Diet Sprite. But one way to lose 10-15 pounds in a few weeks (REALLY!) is to stop drinking regular soda and either go diet or do what I did and switch to Crystal Light Lemonades and Iced Teas ... five calories instead of 150 (I admit I am drinking a Cherry Dr. Pepper as I type this!) and some flavor. But it absolutely works in taking a significant amount of weight off literally overnight and you don't have to change one other aspect of your diet or exercise regimen to get the benefit. Congrats on the weight loss, Less Big Guy!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<First you shocked me with losing 70, now you say 100 more to go. Good grief Dave, I've seen pix of you, and you didn't look like someone who needed to lose 170 pounds.>> Believe me, I'm shocked at that number myself considering I know Dave and while he's a big dude, he's not someone I've ever thought of as having to lose that much (hope that came out the way I intended!) <<Take a break from losing, your body needs time to adjust. Just so long as you don't gain back any, which is really hard in winter. Stay strong.>> Easy way of doing that. Just look at the pics of the morbids riding their ECVs while chowing down on turkey legs and burger baskets at WDW ... that will scare your hunger pains away!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I'm just thankful that Ann wants to dine with me again in such high-end digs. I promise to use my silverware this time! << All you really need is one of those Swiss pocket knives.
Originally Posted By MPierce All those folks at WDW can't be to morbidly obese. Those ECV's have weight, and size limits.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<All those folks at WDW can't be to morbidly obese. Those ECV's have weight, and size limits.>> Have you seen many of those folks?!??!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Have you seen many of those folks?!??!<< Do you mean fat people on ECV's, sure. None that I would consider morbidly obese though. Most ECV's are designed to carry people under 250lbs. My Mother-in-Law has one, and she probably weighs about 90lbs. She lives in a Seniors complex, and that's the only way she can get around for all the activities, and still maintain a sense of independance. I was forced to use one for the first time on my last WDW vacation (that is with the exception of taking my Mother-in-Law's out for joy rides). It was no fun believe me. It completely takes the joy of traveling around the Parks out of the Disney experience. I'm sure there are people that rent them because they are fat, and lazy or just lazy. I do think that number seems inflated from stories I read on the forums compared to my own life experiences, and observations. I can only address my personal experiences on this last trip. Most of the time when I rode the bus I was the only one with an ECV on it. The other times when there was another crip on the bus it was for a legitimate condition. None, I repeat none were fat. When you load up together you always strike up a conversation with the other person, and the first thing said is usually a complaint about being stuck on an ECV, and why you are on one. Most of the time it's because of a recent surgery or injury. Lets's do an experiment at home now. Get out all your pictures taken at WDW. Concentrate on the crowds in the pictures. Now, how many average people do you see, how many fat people do you see, how many people with strollers do you see, how many people on ecvs do you see? Are there more of a concentration of strollers, and ecvs at WDW than anyplace else. Beyound a shawdow of a doubt. WDW by it's size lends itself to that. Plus their own promotion of these devices by offering them for rent at staggering prices adds to it. So the next time you get back from a trip, and think about the staggering number of these devices at WDW remember most of the times when you really notice them is when you see them parked in a herd or if somebody using them cuts you off or slows you down. It's kind of like looking at the Moon when it first comes up. It looks larger than it does later on when it's higher in the sky. It's all about perception, not reality. I hope everybody enjoys the Wolfs Moon out tonight.
Originally Posted By Socrates RE: 68 First-person accounts are always interesting. Thanks for sharing! Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By Mr X ***None that I would consider morbidly obese though. Most ECV's are designed to carry people under 250lbs.*** 250lbs is morbidly obese for practically anyone. <a href="http://www.shwedarling.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/height-weight-chart.gif" target="_blank">http://www.shwedarling.com/blo...hart.gif</a> Not obese for a 6 foot 5 running back who's carrying mostly muscle? Of course not. But that's not what we're talking about here. Most folks on Earth Even so, I'm absolutely certain I've seen people well over 250lbs riding those things...just because that's the recommended maximum doesn't mean people don't just use em anyway. ***My Mother-in-Law has one, and she probably weighs about 90lbs.*** Obviously a different story, and not relevant to what's being discussed here.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I noticed the Moon was oddly large this evening << It was at it's closes point to the earth this year.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> 250lbs is morbidly obese for practically anyone. << That's kind of a stretch. Males 5'6" or less, and females 5'8" or less weighing 250lbs. or more MIGHT be considered morbidly obese. There are several medically accepted criteria for defining morbid obesity. You are likely morbidly obese if you are: more than 100 lbs. over your ideal body weight, or have a Body Mass Index (BMI) of over 40, or have a BMI of over 35 and are experiencing severe negative health effects, such as high blood pressure or diabetes, related to being severely overweight unable to achieve a healthy body weight for a sustained period of time, even through medically supervised dieting Ideal Body Weight Chart Male Female Height Ideal Weight Height Ideal Weight 4' 6" 63 - 77 lbs. 4' 6" 63 - 77 lbs. 4' 7" 68 - 84 lbs. 4' 7" 68 - 83 lbs. 4' 8" 74 - 90 lbs. 4' 8" 72 - 88 lbs. 4' 9" 79 - 97 lbs. 4' 9" 77 - 94 lbs. 4' 10" 85 - 103 lbs. 4' 10" 81 - 99 lbs. 4' 11" 90 - 110 lbs. 4' 11" 86 - 105 lbs. 5' 0" 95 - 117 lbs. 5' 0" 90 - 110 lbs. 5' 1" 101 - 123 lbs. 5' 1" 95 - 116 lbs. 5' 2" 106 - 130 lbs. 5' 2" 99 - 121 lbs. 5' 3" 112 - 136 lbs. 5' 3" 104 - 127 lbs. 5' 4" 117 - 143 lbs. 5' 4" 108 - 132 lbs. 5' 5" 122 - 150 lbs. 5' 5" 113 - 138 lbs. 5' 6" 128 - 156 lbs. 5' 6" 117 - 143 lbs. 5' 7" 133 - 163 lbs. 5' 7" 122 - 149 lbs. 5' 8" 139 - 169 lbs. 5' 8" 126 - 154 lbs. 5' 9" 144 - 176 lbs. 5' 9" 131 - 160 lbs. 5' 10" 149 - 183 lbs. 5' 10" 135 - 165 lbs. 5' 11" 155 - 189 lbs. 5' 11" 140 - 171 lbs. 6' 0" 160 - 196 lbs. 6' 0" 144 - 176 lbs. 6' 1" 166 - 202 lbs. 6' 1" 149 - 182 lbs. 6' 2" 171 - 209 lbs. 6' 2" 153 - 187 lbs. 6' 3" 176 - 216 lbs. 6' 3" 158 - 193 lbs. 6' 4" 182 - 222 lbs. 6' 4" 162 - 198 lbs. 6' 5" 187 - 229 lbs. 6' 5" 167 - 204 lbs. 6' 6" 193 - 235 lbs. 6' 6" 171 - 209 lbs. 6' 7" 198 - 242 lbs. 6' 7" 176 - 215 lbs. 6' 8" 203 - 249 lbs. 6' 8" 180 - 220 lbs. 6' 9" 209 - 255 lbs. 6' 9" 185 - 226 lbs. 6' 10" 214 - 262 lbs. 6' 10" 189 - 231 lbs. 6' 11" 220 - 268 lbs. 6' 11" 194 - 237 lbs. 7' 0" 225 - 275 lbs. 7' 0" 198 - 242 lbs. >> Even so, I'm absolutely certain I've seen people well over 250lbs riding those things...just because that's the recommended maximum doesn't mean people don't just use em anyway. << Most ecv's are designed to carry a max load of 250lbs. If you exceed this weight limit you could severly damage the scooter. You can rent scooters that are designed to carry more at additional cost. So I am sure you have seen people on them that weigh more than 250lbs. ***My Mother-in-Law has one, and she probably weighs about 90lbs.*** >> Obviously a different story, and not relevant to what's being discussed here. << When there is a constant presentation of ecv riders as being fat, and lazy it is very relevant X. Besides, when have you ever known me to post something that has no relevance to the discussion? Now everybody read the chart, and start your diet tomorrow. Just remember, we've just about run-off those smokers, now we're working on all of you fatties.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***>> Obviously a different story, and not relevant to what's being discussed here. << When there is a constant presentation of ecv riders as being fat, and lazy it is very relevant X.*** I think most people make a distinction between folks who are "regular" disabled as opposed to disabled due to excessive weight. And as far as you parsing words on "morbidly obese", fine. Replace morbidly obese with severely obese then (which almost everyone, as per my chart, would certainly be at 250 pounds which would be 50 pounds or more overweight). Frankly if you are 100 pounds overweight or more you are certainly in a deep, troubling state medically speaking but it ain't none too healthy to be even 75 or 50 pounds overweight either (I'm no doc, but I'll take a guess on that one and assume I'm on the right track ).
Originally Posted By Mr X <---is 50+ pounds overweight, and needs to do something about it...and can DEFINITELY feel the health effects!
Originally Posted By Mr X I do believe that 10-20 pounds over is all good, Dave. So, wanna race? I'll bet you can drop 90 before I can drop 50 (probably more like 60 truth be told)! (I've lost weight before, but pretty darned slowly lol)
Originally Posted By Mr X <---takes that to mean the diet can be postponed until Dave is ready to race <---thinks Mrs X will be none too happy about latest development And I've already mentioned this to ya, but WAY TO GO! 70 pounds is no mean feat, that takes hard work and determination and you should be VERY pleased with the progress you've made so far! Congrats!!!!
