Originally Posted By dshyates "Disney isn't designing this area for us, they are designing it for children.... " But I thought we determined that the MK is NOT a park designed for children. Now I'm sooo confused.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 "Disney isn't designing this area for us, they are designing it for children.... " But I thought we determined that the MK is NOT a park designed for children. Now I'm sooo confused.<< I don't believe in that reasoning, but alot of Disney fans these days are stuck in this mindset that every single attraction Walt Disney designed was for the entire family, with no rides specifically for adults or for children.... I am sure in 1955, the kids loved the Bathroom of Tomorrow.... In the new Fantasyland, there are areas just for kids, but they also are putting in the Little Mermaid Ride which is for the entire family....
Originally Posted By dshyates "I am sure in 1955, the kids loved the Bathroom of Tomorrow...." I'm pretty sure ONLY the kids loved the Bathroom of Tomorrow.
Originally Posted By kennect William, When all is said and done there will plenty of adults that will get into this whole thing also....
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 William, When all is said and done there will plenty of adults that will get into this whole thing also....<< I agree, I just cannot believe all the negativity... I mean WDW is finally getting some lovin' and all these fans online want to do is complain and whine about it....
Originally Posted By kennect William, I kinda of get the idea that a basic expansion of any park is never quite on this level in terms of size or scope...This redo is going to cover a lot of space...And regardless of what is going into it there is a lot more going on than just a new ride and restaurant justifying it being done...I say count your blessing's where they fall...Florida has gotten quite a bit over the years but nothing like this for the MK...I find it nice to know that the time finally has come that they realize they need a really fully fleshed out Fantasyland...I just wish the real fantasy was it could happen overnight...This is going to be a hard one to wait for....
Originally Posted By Hista98 ridiculous things in Life that make the world go round. Silly Witches its cinergy, it makes Disney world go round and round, it is unbound!!!
Originally Posted By kennect One more thought...DUMBO! I can't believe that Disney is going all out on a major redo of this attraction...There couldn't be anything more classic Disney than this for me...This is one area where I hope the hype holds up to the finished product...The artwork is amazing....I can't wait till we learn more about this part of the new WDW Fantasyland...
Originally Posted By sleepingbe Witches and other Aurora supporters, thanks for helping me defend my favorite princess. I do love all the princesses, but ever since I was a little girl, Briar Rose has always been my favorite. She is very popular in the South. Whenever Matel releases a new Disney princess doll, they always sell out of Aurora. I will check Louisiana to Florida and cannot locate her in a single store. When I ask the employees, they say she is always the first to sell out. So Leobloom, you are surely incorrect about your statement of her not being popular. I also find her tale to be one of the most exciting of the classics. It would make for a great show. We already have B&B and TLM show at the Disney Studios and there have been plenty Cinderella themed shows in front the castle. It's time for a Sleeping Beauty show. It would be a great addition to the park. I do hope they'll do more with the cottage than just make it a coloring station. As I suggested in an earlier post, they should make it a bakery with a section of it a coloring center. We already have a restaurant confirmed. Why not a bakery?
Originally Posted By Hista98 or a walkthorugh that tells the story, thats what I thought it would be at first, and it would lead up to meeting her. so you would see the story while you wait in line like DL's castle. also I find it funny that most girls just call her sleeping beauty or beauty because they don't know her name lol. Will they change the faires costumes so they can talk? at DL they are face Charecters, but i beleive at WDW they have masks, which is interesting to me, its one of the few places where the costumes are diffrent, then the other resorts version.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>I agree, I just cannot believe all the negativity... I mean WDW is finally getting some lovin' and all these fans online want to do is complain and whine about it....<<< I know, who would have thought a little while ago that I would be the optimist and defend the MK. I was around before and after Disneyland Fantasyland redo, and it made a huge difference. Ride wise, not so much except for Pinocchio being new (which is often rumoured to be ripped out of Paris). Most of it was cosmetic, but it made a huge difference. At DLP, the Fantasyland there, like the other FL's around the globe, is still mainly child orientated, but it is sooooo beautiful, as an adult, it is still very enjoyable, including the HIGHLY themed shops (something WDW has very little of comparitively). So, every trip I have made to WDW in adulthood, I have found the mk wanting, especially in the poor excuse for a Fantasyland. This new plan will add a huge amount of ambience, an e-ticket, two fab dining facilities, and a bunch of themed meet and greets, which although not my thing, they are hugely popular. And with Toontown Fair going (YAY - horrible area), it's a solid replacement that will also have eye candy that will be more interesting for the adults having to endure the areas. I have come to understand that for some families, especially those that did not grow up with Disney parks, the whole reason for going is for the characters (sad, but true at DLP especially). This one I see as a great compromise, and a bigger gain that DL had when the redo was done in the 80's. Add in the virtual queing for Dumbo (nicking the idea from Legoland) as an experiment, I actually applaud them for this one. Now if something like this was happening in the other lands, I would not be so happy, but this seems like a good plan. And be glad you are not being treated like Paris right now, with the horrid Toystory Playland being built instead....
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 And be glad you are not being treated like Paris right now, with the horrid Toystory Playland being built instead....<< I agree, I may not even make a trip there next year due to the fact that I don't want to support such lack of creativity with my money... WDW on the other hand, when FL is completed, I may have to take a trip there to check it out...
Originally Posted By tonyanton I like the addition of water back into Fantasyland...the loss of the lagoon left that area of the MK looking very "dry." Fantasyland in DLP benefits greatly from the winding stream through the land...seems this is a great design element sorely needed for WDW. I also like the idea of the castle walls, with this new area beyond it. I hope the meet and greets are a bit more elaborate than usual, it would seem so based on what has been shown/discussed so far. I wonder if the Belle storytime area will transform...would be a great spot for a permanent Alice in Wonderland greeting area.
Originally Posted By Scottydem I hope Alice gets a little land in phase 2. I'd kill for that maze in DLP!
Originally Posted By tonyanton The maze is great...if it can work in snowy and rainy Paris, it could work in rainy Florida.
Originally Posted By tonyanton Of course in Florida it would have to be wide enough for multiple ECVs and double strollers.
Originally Posted By The Duck With all of the commotion regarding M&G princesses (with or without crayons), I've heard very little about Goofy's Barnstormer being re-themed as a Casey Jr. coaster. Has anyone heard if this is still in the plan? I can almost hear him chugging, "I think I can, I think I can" as he goes up the lift hill and then letting out a loud "Woo hoo!" as he makes his first descent.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>>>>I agree, I just cannot believe all the negativity... I mean WDW is finally getting some lovin' and all these fans online want to do is complain and whine about it....<<< Not everybody is impressed with "Meet & Greets". (From the same co. that brought you Horizons, Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean, Maelstrom,'it's a small world', American Adventure, etc.)
Originally Posted By Hista98 I heared another plan is to clone just the Casey Jr. train ride that is in DL, and turn the barnstormer into a standered carny coaster.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I've heard very little about Goofy's Barnstormer being re-themed as a Casey Jr. coaster. Has anyone heard if this is still in the plan? << From what I've heard so far it's still in the plans, but how it will be redesigned is still up in the air.
