Originally Posted By MinnieSummer So, if Disney had announced they were giving us a great new e-ticket ride and a new restaurant in Fantasy Land, and never mentioned a thing about the meet and greets would everyone have been happy? It worked for AK -- the announcements for Everest and Yak and Yeti were received with great enthusiasm, and seemed to make people feel AK would no longer be a 1/2 day park (which I have always disagreed with). So Disney has given MK more than an e-ticket and restaurant, and over half of the people on this thread persist in slamming. It's been a week since I walked away from this thread due to making people "vomit" and I was amazed it is still active and as volatile and rude as ever.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I do think that I would have reacted better to just the addition of the restuarants and the Little Mermaid attraction. What they're doing makes it look like the be all end all for Fantasyland, when a lot of it is just fulff in the middle. If they saved their money (and real estate that is fairly centrally located within the land) for something more long term and impressive, then I would be much more excited about it. In DAK, there is still some room between Kali and Everest for something else. They didn't feel the need to fill it up with random meet and greets to fill the space. Instead, they put a couple minor buildings there (bathrooms and a little shop), which could easily be moved if they wanted to put something more significant in its place. It seems like someone was dead set on using the old 20K showbuilding footprint for the Little Mermaid ride (which probably holds over from a plan many years ago), and that forced them to have the awkward area between the current buildings and the future development which was pushed out to the back. That area is too big to leave empty, but it's too small to put anything of any real value in. If they had taken that same area, forgotten about the location of the 20K building, and started from scratch, I think they could have built the same stuff, in a much more growth friendly way. What they're doing right now is sealing themselves into this Fantasyland forever. There doesn't appear to be a good place for a walkway that goes past TLM, so I don't know if there's any chance that they will ever be able to expand back there. If the princesses are in as high a demand as they want us to believe, then they should put them farther back, and use them as a weenie to draw the crowds deep into the park. And all those little houses with Princesses will be pretty expensive to staff, compared to what it takes to run a dark ride like Snow White. While this cost looks fine on initial building reports (you don't have to build entertainment CM's, but you need to build a showbuilding and sets), in the long term it will be much more expensive. And then there's always a (pretty good) chance that in a few years the princesses won't be as popular as they are now. The princess merchandise line seems to have died down over the past 2-3 years, so it seems like this is an odd time to put all the meet and greets in. I'm not complaining because I think that this won't be done well, or that guests won't like it. I'm sure it will look great and people will wait in line for hours to meet Cinderella. Rather, I'm upset because I don't think it's the best use of the space, especially since it limits what they will be able to do there in the future. The layout of the individual buildings is pretty strange compared to what Disney usually does (will there be Utilidor access to these houses? Character meet and greets usually have easy backstage access, and these are in the middle of nowhere), and the timig is strange with how the merchandise has been recently. It's not that all this stuff is bad. It's not. It just isn't as good as it could be. So, yes, I would rather them just build the ride and restuarant and leave the rest of the space open for something more significant in the future than seal themselves in with things that are just okay.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris "The princess merchandise line seems to have died down over the past 2-3 years, so it seems like this is an odd time to put all the meet and greets in." Actually, isn't that typical Disney? Wait until something is about eighteen months past its prime and then start thinking about a new product line, theme park ride, meet and greet and other peripheral "synergistic" tie-ins? Look at the Milking of "Millionaire" and the plethora of High School Musical product we are subjected to.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy All the data show the princess line as strong as ever. Any observation that it has "died" is not accurate.
Originally Posted By Hista98 People have said that the reason for the low key redo is not enough money to spend on it in these tough times. Well lets see right before this was announced disney spent 4 Billion dollers on Marvel. IMHO if disney can afford to spend 4 billion dollers on a comic book company they can spend 4 billion dollers on FL.
Originally Posted By Dis-Philip A lot of you are being too hard on the upcoming Fantasyland rennovations. Be happy that we're getting what we're getting instead of getting nothing at all! And don't bash the new things until you experience them for yourself. And even then, be constructive in your criticisms instead of just passing judgement and being too hateful for your own goods.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Be happy that we're getting what we're getting..." Oh, YEAH!!! Princess M&Gs with a crayola sponsored coloring station. "instead of getting nothing at all!" Much like what the MK has gotten for a generation. The only thing of real substance is Ariel's Adventure. Which would be great if they had been adding major attractions all along. But considering that they haven't added an E-Ticket in my teenaged daughter's lifetime, they are doing a miserable job of playing catch-up.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Dis Philip, if only we could have your vast vocabulary and debating skills laced with such elloquence, coupled with such a thankful disposition that exemplifies that gilted excrament is still wonderous in the magical swamp lands.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Oh, Dshyates, shut up!" Haha, quite the retort. At this point, I don't really give a shizzle what they add, but if they expect me to spend my money at their resort, they really need to step up their game. Free rooms and food is only an incentive if they have something I want to see.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed, even with giving it away, it is not worth the hastle to bother. Hence why we are saving for Tokyo.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I don't know if that is the case, but I would like to find out ;-) The only park in WDW that has continually improved is DAK, all the others have been in decline for at least a decade.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad <<<Oh, Dshyates, shut up!>>> This is open discussion. If you don't like his point refute it. But "shut up?", come on.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Phil is the resident troll of the LP. After a while he gets bored and crawls back under the moldy rock he came from. ~Live the Spirit of the Season~
Originally Posted By mousermerf I don't think he's a troll, but moreso someone who has some issues. I'm just mean and unfriendly - him? I don't think he knows any better. For realsies.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>And don't bash the new things until you experience them for yourself. << If the new things are geared for girls. (And I'm a guy) .. How does anyone expect me to react ?!
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<If the new things are geared for girls. (And I'm a guy) .. How does anyone expect me to react ?!>> I'm a girl & I can't wait!! Over half of the population are women & it's about time someone caters to us!!
