Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "In the meantime the money spent on these so-called "safety improvements" could be spent on new attractions." If someone "falls out" because they undid their flimsy restraint on the Matterhorn is injured or dies due to their own negligence and a court finds that the seat belts are inadequate, how much do you think that would cost Disney?
Originally Posted By Moon Waffle You are proving my point. The legal system has created this monster. That doesn't mean it makes any sense or is right. I wonder how far it will go. Once lap bars aren't enough, then what?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "The legal system has created this monster. That doesn't mean it makes any sense or is right." So do you think that without this "monster" Disney or other amusement park operators would be as concerned about your safety? Disney has a good track record, but is isn't perfect. The Columbia and Big Thunder tragedies come to mind, not to mention lack of adequate safety restrains on the Peoplemover and the Matterhorn, both of which led to the deaths of guests who tried to stand or exit their vehicles. "I wonder how far it will go. Once lap bars aren't enough, then what?" I'm sort of wondering why you think that a secured lap bar can be so easily unlocked.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan "I wonder how far it will go. Once lap bars aren't enough, then what?" Tomb Buggies -- little casket-like plexiglass cells people lie down in and are completely enclosed.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan This is why I think my idea for the Disneyland Perpetual Omnimover System would be the best thing ever. You climb into your clamshell vehicle at the entrance to the park, and over the next six hours, you glide effortlessly down Main Street, through the various lands, attractions and shows, all without having to wait in line, all from within the cozy comfort of one standardized, OSHA-approved vehicle. Onboard lunch selections are available for purchase, and the Drive-Thru Emporium you gather up all the stuff you want to buy. Genius I tell you.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Will these individual Omni-movers have a built in, ummmmm, facility?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan No. But that does present an exclusive sponsorship opportunity for Depends Undergarments.
Originally Posted By 999HAUNTS < I hate to think of them discriminating against people who are tall or (unfortunately) really big> Unfortunately? <Tomb Buggies -- little casket-like plexiglass cells people lie down in and are completely enclosed.> I'm so there!!
Originally Posted By avimagine You know 2oony they could even install vending machines in the perpetual track omnimover and an app for your smart phone so you wouldn't even need to enter the shops. Now of course, why couldn't they have a large person accessible bob sled, say every 2nd or every 1st one
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance "If someone "falls out" because they undid their flimsy restraint on the Matterhorn is injured or dies due to their own negligence and a court finds that the seat belts are inadequate, how much do you think that would cost Disney?" Those seatbelts on the Matterhorn don't actually do anything to hold you in, do they? I mean, I don't think I'd die if I rode it without a seatbelt. Didn't the person who rode it actually get up on there hands and knees and lean out the back of the bobsled trying to reach something? When I was there in December, I thought about that while I was on the ride, and I can't imagine someone being crazy enough to try that. You're whipping around in a different direction every two seconds, who the heck would do that?
Originally Posted By Anatole69 3 people per seat sounds like it will increase capacity to me. That's a good enough reason for a change on its own. - Anatole
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Those seatbelts on the Matterhorn don't actually do anything to hold you in, do they?" No, they don't, which is basically what I was saying. The new restraints most likely will secure riders into the seat and prevent them from doing something stupid like trying to stand.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I don't know. From Al's description that's what it sounds like. Here's a pic, but you can't see the new restraints: http://www.mouseplanet.info/gallery/d/98920-1/Matterhorn2-042210-AVP.jpg
Originally Posted By ecdc In this era of increasing girth, I find it extremely difficult to believe that Disney would create ride vehicles that wouldn't fit a sizable (no pun intended) portion of the country. Over six-feet and over 200 lbs has to describe a whole heck of a lot of men, and a handful of women. I'm 6'4" and a lot of rides are a tight squeeze, but it's not as awful as Al or some here suggest. I suspect they'll be like Space Mountain - my knees are a bit squished there, not nothing that isn't doable. Much ado about nothing, says I.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I thought the new sleds were the same three-and-three inline style as WDW's Space. Which my 6'7" spouse fits into rather MORE easily than DL's Space, if not as easily as DL's current roomy bobsleds. So I'm guessing there will be somewhat less space than currently, but still enough for most people.
Originally Posted By Manfried You folks sound like the Disney lawyers, over-analyzing this from every conceivable angle. They have to put in safety bars. There are good financial and ethical reasons for doing it. The bobsleds never run with eight people in them that often anyway, or at least when I'm there they're never full. The attraction was built way before Disney and the rest of the United States became Lawsuitland. Want to make things better? Quit electing lawyers to all legislatures and Congress.
Originally Posted By avimagine If it wasn't for lawyers and MBA's the world would fall apart dontchaknow?
Originally Posted By Bellella Ok, so put in the lap belts if they think they'll really work, but for heaven's sake, don't put restrictions on people who are too tall or too (unfortunately) fat. Many people can't do a thing about their weight problems. What are the others supposed to do, go in a giant squash machine?
