Originally Posted By Shiva boy, did this thread get hi-jacked ;-) The new Monorails are due to arrive at DL on the 13th. Like Darkbeer said, due to testing, it will be a little while before we see them in the park. They're not exactly what I would call new. A completely new chassis has been retro-fitted to an existing body, unlike previous incarnations where a new body was put on the old chassis. There will be also modifications to the skin and the windows will be tinted. The plexiglass front and rear windows will also be real glass. There will also be security cameras in the cars. I can't wait!!
Originally Posted By Roger55 ^^ Does this mean the interiors will remain the same? Mods to the skin and tinted windows? I really was hoping for more change. From the drawings I saw of the "new" monorails, I would have never guessed that it was still the same body, skin and windows included.
Originally Posted By Shiva >>Does this mean the interiors will remain the same<< I'm guessing that the interiors would be new too. I wish I had asked a few more questions. I know the new side windows are supposed to fit more flush with the body instead of being recessed but that's about as much as I was able to find out.
Originally Posted By Roger55 So it sounds like the bodys will be for the most part new. Maybe they are just preserving some of the old body's structure. It will be nice to finally see one so we can clear up all the speculations.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt It's been known for a while now that the only the bodies and the interiors would be new. This is very similar to the last rehab of the monorails back in the 80's when they got bodies that look like those at WDW.
Originally Posted By Shiva >>It's been known for a while now that the only the bodies and the interiors would be new<< The chassis is ALL new, it's almost a complete opposite of the rehab of the 80's, where the only the bodies were replaced.
Originally Posted By Roger55 >>A completely new chassis has been retro-fitted to an existing body, unlike previous incarnations where a new body was put on the old chassis. << -- Shiva >>It's been known for a while now that the only the bodies and the interiors would be new.<< -- Hans Someone is obviously incorrect or confused!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "The chassis is ALL new, it's almost a complete opposite of the rehab of the 80's, where the only the bodies were replaced." My bad - assuming this is true. There were several rumors floating around when this project was first announced that only the shells were new.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig Wasn't it written somewhere or said by some Disney exec at some presentation (Matt Oimette maybe?) that the bodies would be all new, and made out of high tech composites materials? Cast in one piece for each train segment using modern fabrication methods. I'm wondering if they are using the old bodies to give the new chassis a thorough test and workout until the new bodies are ready and can be installed on the chassis. Just speculation on my part. Can't wait to find out the real story.
Originally Posted By Shiva >>Can't wait to find out the real story<< Me too!!! We should know real soon. I wish there was some way for all of us to be in the same car for a sneak preview. Take care guys, I'll be in DL tomorrow!!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Wasn't it written somewhere or said by some Disney exec at some presentation (Matt Oimette maybe?) that the bodies would be all new, and made out of high tech composites materials? Cast in one piece for each train segment using modern fabrication methods." Yes. This is what I remember reading too.
Originally Posted By SONiCSenshi First of all that concept art we all seen of the Mark VII Monorails is fake. As far as I know there are no real official artwork. How long does it take for a train to get certified so guests can ride? BTW: Knott's Berry Farm dates back to 1940 and Holiday World dates back to 1946. There for Knott's Berry Farm is the "Oldest" Theme park in the world. But Disneyland was the first. There hopefully that will make everyone happy. ^_^
Originally Posted By Roger55 That "fake" concept art we all "seen" was showed at an official Disney "What's new" event at DCA in the Hyperion theater by Disney execs. Who ever created that "fake" artwork sure did a great job releasing it so that it would be able to fool all us un-informed so-called Disney fans.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Knott's Berry Farm dates back to 1940... There for Knott's Berry Farm is the "Oldest" Theme park in the world." Actually Knott's dates back to the 1920's. Of course it technically didn't become an amusement park until much, much later. You might want to check up on your theme park history.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Knott's Berry Farm dates back to 1940 ... There for Knott's Berry Farm is the "Oldest" Theme park in the world.<< Hmm. HersheyPark dates back to 1907, and Cedar Point to 1870. Both are now considered "theme" parks. (Though Cedar Point is a stretch!) Would that not make them older theme parks than Knotts? Hmm? Disneyland is the world's first and oldest theme park. Period.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Actually Knott's dates back to the 1920's.<< The Knott family sold berries from a roadside stand in the 1920s. The first dinner was sold in 1934. Construction of Ghost Town began in 1940 (considered by many to be the start of modern Knott's Berry Farm). It was not until 1968 that Knotts was enclosed and admission was charged. It is by no stretch of the imagination "America's First Theme Park."
Originally Posted By FerretAfros If we're talking about the oldest theme park in the world, then we should definately consider Tivoli Gardens in Coppenhagen which opened in 1943. At that time it only had a few rides as we think of them today, but always had several different styles of buildings around the park. Interestingly enough, apparently the creator of the park said about a year after the park's opening, "Tivoli will never, so to speak, be finished." It was one of the several places Walt visited when trying to draw inspiration for Disneyland.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Tivoli has the best atmosphere of any park I've ever been in except the original DL. Walt definitely drew from it, and in turn modern Tivoli has drawn from DL. But you typo'd the year - it was 1843.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "If we're talking about the oldest theme park in the world, then we should definately consider Tivoli Gardens in Coppenhagen which opened in 1943." That park is lovely, but it isn't really themed to anything, therefore I'd hardly call it a theme park.
