Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>If they are going to repurpose effects of ye olde SWSA into the new one, that makes me worry a bit about it's quality,<< Don't worry about that. The most they would take out and use would be some of the figures. Everything else will be brand new and quite nice.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ I'd hope. from what you are describing, and what info seems to be coming in, SWSA II sounds pretty awesome. Very happy about this.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Quick update from the world of the engineering students of the world. I have a friend who worked with WDI on the FLE this summer, and eh too confirms the Mine Car Ride.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Excellent. All they need to do is make SWSA into Princi Center, and then back into a ride. do that, I'll actually have confidence in them...
Originally Posted By NoChesterHester I'm going to take a wait and see approach. I am so far impressed with the level of commitment to the project.
Originally Posted By MousDad Close SWSA - move the babes in - finish FLE - build the babes new digs - move the babes into new digs - build a new ride at SWSA. Even if they do all this, aren't we talking a 5 year minimum timeframe here? Is Staggs even going to be in this job that long? It just seems like way too many ifs, whens and afters for me to be fully convinced that it will ever happen like that. Great if they change my mind and it does. But I'm still putting money on the princesses being there as temporarily as the wand was, at minimum.
Originally Posted By The Duck Regarding the 7 Dwarf's coaster, this looks like the probable concept. <a href="http://travel.latimes.com/daily-deal-blog/index.php/hong-kong-disneyland-5813/" target="_blank">http://travel.latimes.com/dail...nd-5813/</a> Just delete the bears and insert the dwarves.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^Nope. Grizzly Trail is much bigger than this will be, and much more thrilling.
Originally Posted By The Duck <<Nope. Grizzly Trail is much bigger than this will be, and much more thrilling.>> I was just referring to the coaster, not the whole Grizzly Trail area. If HKDL already has the plans drawn out, wouldn't it be sensible to just copy and adapt them for WDW? By adapt, I acknowledge that it would probably be a bit smaller in area in order to fit the plans, but this still seems to me to be the likely choice. Instead of the back scratching bear switching the tracks, I could see the witch pulling the lever.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper The Snow coaster is an original design. The Grizzly Trail coaster will be much more thrilling than the Snow White coaster.
Originally Posted By Britain So I'm imaginingthis new ride would be essentially SWSA: Special Edition. A mountain-ish show building, a few tight turns and drops, but mainly a souped up version of what we already got. If that's the case, they better close the old SWSA, even if it it's only for M&G.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Close SWSA - move the babes in - finish FLE - build the babes new digs - move the babes into new digs - build a new ride at SWSA. Even if they do all this, aren't we talking a 5 year minimum timeframe here? Is Staggs even going to be in this job that long? It just seems like way too many ifs, whens and afters for me to be fully convinced that it will ever happen like that. Great if they change my mind and it does. But I'm still putting money on the princesses being there as temporarily as the wand was, at minimum.<<< Exactly. This gives them too much room to screw up. >>Disney is great with the Phase II follow-thru.<< Can we even think of a phase two that has actually been completed in recent years?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Regarding the 7 Dwarf's coaster, this looks like the probable concept. <a href="http://travel.latimes.com/dail...nd-5813/" target="_blank">http://travel.latimes.com/dail...nd-5813/</a> Just delete the bears and insert the dwarves.<<< No, if that ever makes it's way to Florida, the theme will be loosely coming with it.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>If that's the case, they better close the old SWSA, even if it it's only for M&G.<<< Why replace it with M/Gs? Why not put in a new ride?
Originally Posted By brotherdave That's because the Imagineers had to promise SOMEWHERE for the Princesses to go! If they're not going to build Meet&Greet-land, then they have to put them somewhere to sell the photos and Princess items. Sadly, it sounds like Snow White's ride will go away in favor of this. The Dwarf mine-train coaster sounds fine, especially if done right, but I'm betting that the princesses either never totally leave (some might move to the new Skyway location), while others stay behind and the rest becomes some giant Disney Store selling more princess crap. Sure, they MAY have plan for this to be temporary and replace it with a new dark ride (I've heard a Beauty & the Beast ride mentioned before, though that sounds doubtful now with the Be Our Guest restaraunt greenlighted). Hopefully SOMETHING will go in there sooner than later. Personally, I'll miss Snow White's Scary Adventures. It was evocative of a simpler era in Disney history where storytelling was foremost as opposed to selling more princess dresses and such. It's a fun little ride that we always try to ride at the MK. It's a great "old-style", C-Ticket dark ride and nothing more. It never tries to be. I truly wish there were more of these types of rides in the MK like there are at Disneyland. The five Fantasyland C-Ticket rides at DL are always a treat. I only wish the MK would add a few more, too. Mark my words...if they take out SWSA, it will be a LONG time before they install a new dark ride to take its place, if ever!
Originally Posted By magic0214 Okay, so i'm just a teen and this is a little confusing. So what are they putting in the Skyway building? Is this just for the transition to FLE, and then something else will go there "phase 2"
Originally Posted By leobloom >> That will enable them to have everthing from small world to Liberty Square be Princess central. That includes the old Skyway, the bathroom and adjacent area across the way, and possibly even the Yankee Trader shop. << Whoa, whoa, whoa. The Quail-Tile Bathroom could become princessfied?! There's your major news story!