Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "DCA's version and the version at Knott's are too close for comfort." Interesting comment considering that Knott's has long had an attraction that is almost identical to DL's Mad Tea Party, the Fiesta Hat Dance. <a href="http://www.family-vacation-getaways-at-los-angeles-theme-parks.com/images/KnottsFiestaHatDance.gif" target="_blank">http://www.family-vacation-get...ance.gif</a> <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/TeacupsMadTeaParty_wb.jpg" target="_blank">http://upload.wikimedia.org/wi...y_wb.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I can't even really call it Silly Symphony swings ... as the Mickey Short presented on the ride is not a Silly Symphony cartoon short, at all.>> I'm thinking that it is not named after *the* Silly Symphonies, but they decided to call it that because it's a cute name and also because The Band Concert is well, a silly symphony.
Originally Posted By dshyates Reminds me of this place: <a href="http://beeremovalkissimmee.com/images/kissimmee.jpg" target="_blank">http://beeremovalkissimmee.com...mmee.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <and also because The Band Concert is well, a silly symphony.> Actually, it wasn't. The Silly Symphonies were by definition never MM cartoons. The SS's were created by Walt to a). be a catch-all for cartoons that didn't star one of the main stars, and b). provide a training/proving ground for the features. So we saw the first Disney color short, the first use of multi-plane cameras, early attempts at animating humans, etc. all in SS's. A MM cartoon, like the Band Concert, would not have been a SS, by definition.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 As for Knott's swinger, although it's slightly more ornate (at least for now) than the SSS, it is ornate in a VERY generic way. Pretty much any wave swinger you see at any park will be decorated pretty much exactly like that. Add in the plain vanilla swings and the ver plain concrete pad, and you have something about as generic as it gets. Knott's once upon a time would at least TRY to make their "standard" rides themed to something, sort of. At least the SSS has a custom design, is elevated, and swings out over a nice body of water. Now ultimately, yes, it's just a wave swinger. But considering that PP was (sometimes correctly) criticized for having too much that was "off the shelf," holding up the Knott's ride as somehow "better" when it's as off the shelf as it comes, is a little strange.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss You're missing what I mean. I know The Band Concert is not one of THE Silly Symphony cartoons. I am saying is is _a_ "silly" symphony performance. Capiche?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <You're missing what I mean. I know The Band Concert is not one of THE Silly Symphony cartoons. I am saying is is _a_ "silly" symphony performance. Capiche?> Yeah... but when you capitalize The Band Concert, it seems like you're referring to the cartoon, rather than a piece of music (which was the William Tell Overture I think - any word on if they'll play that with the ride? That would be kind of cool, actually.)
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Also, to be a symphony, you need strings. To be a band, you can't have strings (other than the occasional string bass, but those are pretty rare). There's really no way that the BAND Concert could be a Silly SYMPHONY. They're just different animals. Also, why are they using the Silly Symphony logo for the signs on the walls if it's just supposed to be a symphony that's silly. I'm not sure I get the logic.
Originally Posted By Terminus It's technically not a "jewel" either, but they still called it that. Heh!
Originally Posted By Terminus =) We're all trying to make sense out of the nonsense! Truth is, I'm really surprised that they didn't find a way to theme this in some Pixar-ish way! The UP! swings! Attach some fake balloons, and we're there!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "To be a band, you can't have strings (other than the occasional string bass, but those are pretty rare)." So what about bands that have strings in them? What are they called?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Symphony orchestras...bands are traditionally just woodwinds, brass, and percussion (maybe a string bass), orchestras are traditionally just strings (maybe some percussion too), and symphonies are the full set. I don't think I've ever seen instrumentation that's mostly a band with some strings thrown in for good measure, other than the occasional string bass, which is used more often in jazz bands, but play the same part as the tubas. Even those only have a single string player, which to me would mean that it's a band, as strings are far outnumbered by everything else. I don't remember the exact instrumentation of The Band Concert (who would?), but I'm pretty sure that there are no strings in it, which makes it really difficult to pass as a symphony. Maybe it's all just a part of the jewel that will unfold before us as we ride on it...
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I don't think I've ever seen instrumentation that's mostly a band with some strings thrown in for good measure, other than the occasional string bass, which is used more often in jazz bands, but play the same part as the tubas." Strings are quite common in contemporary pop music like rock and/or soul/R&B bands. In the 60's and 70's it was quite common for bands to have strings. Much of Donna Summer's material used strings for example.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Also, to be a symphony, you need strings. To be a band, you can't have strings (other than the occasional string bass, but those are pretty rare). There's really no way that the BAND Concert could be a Silly SYMPHONY. They're just different animals." Tsk, tsk Ferret. To be a muscian you so totally fumbled that answer. First of all a Symphony isn't a group of musicians. It is simply an extended composition. Usually, but not always including multiple movements known as a suite. There are many symphonies that don't have strings at all. Such as Wind Symphonies (Gustav Holst's The Planets) and Chorale Symphonies (Hector Berlioz Romeo et Juliette). The term band really has no instramental restrictions. There are Symphonic Bands (which don't have strings but clearly do play symphonies) these are also sometimes called Wind Symphonies. Rock Bands which do have strings. Jazz Bands, Bluegrass Bands, etc.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance You guys are all going to feel quite silly when you ride this thing for the first time and it takes your breath away with it's wonderful storytelling and exquisite jewel like brilliance.
Originally Posted By dshyates lmao. I AM quite the hypocrite because I do really like Waveswingers. And having one up on a big pedestal will make it even cooler. It is just that it is so not what I am looking for in a Disney Park. I know Hans, other parks have stuff like the tea cups, but Disney really has raised the bar since Dumbo and the tea cups were installed. EPCOT Center really changed the game as far as Disney Parks are concerned. They really can't go back to off the shelf stuff without Disney Parks fans crying foul.
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan <<"DCA's version and the version at Knott's are too close for comfort." Dr Hans Reinhardt: Interesting comment considering that Knott's has long had an attraction that is almost identical to DL's Mad Tea Party, the Fiesta Hat Dance. <a href="http://www.family-vacation-get...ance.gif>>" target="_blank">http://www.family-vacation-get...>></a> If Knott's Fiesta Hat Dance ride still spins without a governor, then it's probably BETTER than DL's Tea Cups are now.
