Originally Posted By Dabob2 <If Knott's Fiesta Hat Dance ride still spins without a governor, then it's probably BETTER than DL's Tea Cups are now.> Even when the Mad Tea Party spun at will, the Knott's hats always got you dizzier, simply because they were a little smaller - thus a smaller, tighter turning radius. A couple of times I walked off that thing staggering.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "You guys are all going to feel quite silly when you ride this thing for the first time and it takes your breath away with it's wonderful storytelling and exquisite jewel like brilliance." *chuckle*
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I know Hans, other parks have stuff like the tea cups, but Disney really has raised the bar since Dumbo and the tea cups were installed." People keep saying this and yet Disney has continually installed rides like the Starjets, Astro Orbiter, Aladdin's Carpets, and new versions of Dumbo and the Teacups from here to China since 1955. I don't see DCA's wave swinger attraction as being any different in terms of Disney tradition. "EPCOT Center really changed the game as far as Disney Parks are concerned. They really can't go back to off the shelf stuff without Disney Parks fans crying foul." I think if Disney installed something like the Swings while still innovating in other areas then I wouldn't be complaining. Remember that EPCOT opened in 1981, and the following year Tokyo Disneyland opened with a collection of cloned rides and buildings from the US - yet it was a huge hit. Like that example shows, Disney can appeal to tradition while expanding into new creative territory.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Legoland has a "teacup" ride called Bionical Blasters." So there are three of these things within less than a 100 mile radius?
Originally Posted By Terminus Three within 68 miles of my house, and I won't ride ANY of them. =) I used to, but spinning now tends to make me want to throw up. Which isn't fun. We have Francis' Ladybug Boogie in DCA too, which is kinda close, but you can't really control the spin, I think. I can take my son on that one without getting sick. =)
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<I think if Disney installed something like the Swings while still innovating in other areas then I wouldn't be complaining.>> I think I agree with this statement. I personally avoid these types of rides, but can understand that they do appeal to some and can have their place. Certainly not in a park like EPCOT, but there are places for these things. If DCA had opened with a much more diverse line-up of quality attractions, I don't think there would have been quite as much of an outcry over the Pier. Sure, us "purists" probably would have still cried fowl, but if they had a least had a ride or two of Pirates or Mansion quality, then I don't think we would have complained as loudly.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Remember that EPCOT opened in 1981, and the following year Tokyo Disneyland opened with a collection of cloned rides and buildings from the US - yet it was a huge hit." You know what I think? I think Harambie@DAK needs an Ariel base tilt-a-whirl. Africa has a coast and that means that an Ariel based Tilt-A Whirl would be perfect in the Africa part of DAK.
Originally Posted By mousermerf If it's innovative in some way - it's inherently not off the shelf. And if you think any additions of off the shelf attractions has not been soundly criticised in the states you are mistaken. Aladdin's carpets were criticised from day one, as was Dinoland, and all the offerings that popped up at DCA even through Flik's Fun Fair. Going back to Epcot - do you realize every other Disney park in the states has some sort of tubular steel coaster except Epcot? Imagine the riot that would ensue if they put a dumbo spinner in Epcot.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt But that isn't what EPCOT was supposed to be. It's OK for Disney to create EPCOT and a faux pleasure pier. It shouldn't be be limited one or the other.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "If it's innovative in some way - it's inherently not off the shelf." What about the orange? The ride inside was very much off the shelf. But the giant orange that encapsulated the ride was not. Nor was the scent that it originally had. Nor were the bee butts that it originally had. As far as an off-the-shelf ride goes, they were pretty innovative with it. But at the end of the day, no matter how much innovation they tried to cram into it, it was still just a standard wave swinger.
Originally Posted By dshyates I am waiting for a clam scented Tilt-a-Whirl. Now that screams Disney Quality.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Clam scented tilt a whirl sounds like great fun. Vomit scented roller coasters are my all time favorite though. That way when the person next to you pukes you can hardly tell except when a few chucks fly off and hit you in the face.
Originally Posted By dshyates What about that stuff that looks like pencil shavings that use at Elementary Schools to absorb the vomit. That stuff is pretty magical.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Tell me about it, I love it when they have it blow in your face from the vents built into the roller coaster.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Well, you guys seem to have been asking for somethin you didn't know already existed. And in the "best" theme park in the world, Tokyo DisneySea... <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/noomai/2365998650/" target="_blank">http://www.flickr.com/photos/n...5998650/</a>