Originally Posted By crazycroc SpokkerJones wrote: Please show me how people who are speaking out against the additions is an attempt to control someone else's pocketbook. What I stated was this: "If it means that much to you, vote with your own pocketbook, to attempt to control one other person's let alone the whole world's opinion of an event is futile." In other words, vote with your money if you feels strongly,you can't control what other people think and have some faith and allow other opinions to be valid. I probably could have used an "and" instead of a comma, or heck even a separate paragraph. Bad grammar, it happens to the best of us at times. The use of own was also redundant. Also, it wasn't even directed at you, it was just a general observation based on comments from all parties. All this drama doesn't make the ride go back or get better, it's an amusement park ride, not Egypt admitting that Israel has a right to exist. And with that, I've said my peace. Argue amongst yourselves, I'm off to make double-entendre semi-inappropriate comments that take a few weeks for someone to understand. And read this: <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-93269-P-1.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...-P-1.asp</a>
Originally Posted By avromark Uh getting more back to the original topic? When I read who said I was in a boat? I imagined you walking down the waterway in hip waders (And I know what you meant!)
Originally Posted By Sara Tonin Maybe this topic should have been merged with the stupid things to complain about thread...
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "In other words, vote with your money if you feels strongly" I do. "you can't control what other people think" I am not trying to. "All this drama doesn't make the ride go back or get better" So no matter what happens at the park, those who don't like the changes should not say anything? "Maybe this topic should have been merged with the stupid things to complain about thread..." Thank you for the insult. Maybe I should suggest that you lobby the owners of LaughingPlace to create a Disney Apologist forum for you to post in, but only the "whiners" and "complainers" get insulted on Disney boards. That's perfectly within the rules.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains Okay spokker how do you vote with your money... Really - you were going to have a meet and discussion about the ride today and you mentioned your sign-in wasn't sure they were available. Having a CM sign you in isn't talking with your money - You are still in the park just for free. Why doesn't everyone who hates it (since you said there is no middle ground) start writing letters about how horrible it is. If there are enough of you maybe you will be heard. Probably sooner than you will be here.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I was not planning to see the Small World changes but someone on another board convinced me I was not giving the attraction a fair shake. So in the interest of fairness I had planned to experience it in person. However, at the end of the day, The Walt Disney Company owns rides like Haunted Mansion, shows like Tiki Room, and coasters like the Matterhorn. They've kinda got us by the balls, and I am too weak. "If there are enough of you maybe you will be heard. Probably sooner than you will be here." Actually, I don't think I'll be heard by writing a letter anymore than complaining on the Internet.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney So is this ride officially open now?? I expected to read more reviews here....I was wrong lol.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>That's not what you said. You wrote:<< You know trek ... I wasn't exactly understanding your question .. so I kind of made a shot in the dark with that reply.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >> I don't like that Nemo is in the Submarine Voyage, but I am happy to at least have the subs back.<< Same sentiment for me too. >>I am not for the Pirates Lair on TSI, but I haven't been there, so I reserve judgement.<< Same for me too. I haven't had the interest to go on the island, either. >>I don't like the idea of The Little Mermaid in San Francisco in DCA; that makes no sense to me at all. << I can make the connection for three reasons: 1. It's by water - the lagoon. 2. Most early 20th century seaside amusement areas had a "mermaid/sea" type themed attraction. 3. The park is no longer a "California Only" theme .. not with Pixar around now. And I predict with the rumored name change ... they will only have a loose connection to a California theme. >>But I am fine with the few characters in IaSW... from what I have seen and read, it appears to me they are treating the ride with respect. Now, if Disney went overboard and had dozens and dozens of characters in IaSW, yeah, I would have a problem with that.<< Now, I understand what you were saying. You're taking a more "Moderate" approach. Not quite Democrat .. not quite Republican .. but a Moderate. ;-) (Pardon the metaphor.)
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>Sara Tonin Thu 2/5/2009 9:37p Maybe this topic should have been merged with the stupid things to complain about thread...<< Dear Sara, if you have a problem with people discussing one of the finest crowning achievements out of Walt's time .. and discuss the artistic merit of the latest changes ... then I suggest you take your silly rant against us somewhere else.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 #100 - HK has 38 characters added to the ride. To me, that is dozens and dozens. Actually it is dozens and dozens and dozens. Not quite just a few as you say. - Anatole
Originally Posted By trekkeruss In another thread, Mr. F made a list of the characters he saw; a loose count comes to over two dozen. Still doesn't tip the scale too far in one direction in my mind, when there are hundreds of dolls overall.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 Ok instead of there being dozens and dozens and dozens, there are dozens and dozens. Still not just a few. - Anatole
Originally Posted By trekkeruss A couple dozen among 400 dolls is six percent. I don't consider that a large number.
Originally Posted By ih8meanpeople sara tonin Why are you so mean? I see you hopping in on SEVERAL threads egging people on. You bash, and you applaud others for bashing. I don't get it? I read a supportive entry (several) regarding cancer, you had so much compassion.You have your own story too. I just don't get how you have gone through what you have; yet now you hurt people with your words and bullying. You are not the only one doing this. Why am I making this my business? Because you have suckerpunched me too. Disney is a place where you can be a kid and dream the most magnificent dreams. But there is a pack of wolves roaming this site devouring some of the most sincere people. I don't hate you. I imagine you could careless if I did. Play nice, it feels better and you'll live longer!
Originally Posted By oc_dean Someone over at Micechat had the most succinct line. Which really sums it up for me quite a bit: "The characters are a little more intrusive, and I think they send the ride off message. Small World was always a celebration of harmony in real culture, not harmony in fictional culture." >>A couple dozen among 400 dolls is six percent. I don't consider that a large number. << But if that 6% is a little more intrusive, as this Micechat poster mentions .. then it's more like 60%.
Originally Posted By oc_dean This poster went on to say a little more which some here may agree with: "But in the main, I just don’t understand the point of these changes. It seems like changing things just to change things. Will ridership increase just because Disney characters were added? And even if it does, is Small World a ride that needed a bump? I just think the dollars spent on designing new characters/scenes, building the props, recording new audio, etc. could have been spent on freshening up some other area of the park that actually needed it."
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<if that 6% is a little more intrusive, as this Micechat poster mentions .. then it's more like 60%.>> It always seem to come back to how one sees it to begin with. Is your glass half empty or half full? It would probably be intrusive to that poster on Mice Chat if it was one or two percent of the dolls. <<I just don’t understand the point of these changes.>> The ride was in BAD shape. Since they had to do some major work anyway, they decided to do a little bit more... plussing, if you will. Obviously, not everyone feels it is a plus, but some do.
Originally Posted By avromark Just to play devils advocate I'm pretty sure there were people against the exterior facade being painted back to its original colour scheme from the pastel scheme.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>Is your glass half empty or half full?<< In a theme park that was more about innovation in the past .. as appose to the "in your face" Disney cartoon character brand now ........ you shouldn't be surprised I would say - Half Empty.
