Originally Posted By Daannzzz If you have ever watched a 3d movie in a regular movie theater and you sat back aways from the screen you will notice how the screen becomes more like a window that you are looking through into another worlkd. If you think of the frame of the movie screen like a window it can be used in a different manner. I have often thought Star Tours would be great in 3d (though I will probably only see it once as it makes me sick). Star Tours (and the right Imgineers writing the story) can utilize this to great advantage, as long as they treat it as natural and not a gimmick.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 Thats another thing...the word is that during testing to the new Toy Story Midway mania ride the 3D combined with the spinning cars is making too many people sick. Im concerned that the same problem will be ampliphied on Star Tours.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Funny, since they don't seem to have any problem with it at Spiderman at IOA, which spins and also tilts while looking at 3D screens...
Originally Posted By jonvn "the word is that during testing to the new Toy Story Midway mania ride the 3D combined with the spinning cars is making too many people sick." Sounds exactly like Mission Space.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ also my concern -- maybe they have to use the extra barf bags left over from the side of MS now on Easy.
Originally Posted By twirlnhurl "Toy Story Midway mania ride the 3D combined with the spinning cars is making too many people sick. Im concerned that the same problem will be ampliphied on Star Tours." It depends on the motions of the vehicle. The reasons it shouldn't be a problem on Star Tours is that the rider will always be at a fixed distance from the screen, looking at it at the same angle. On Spider-man, the 3D screens are seen from a moving vantage point, but the motions of the vehicle is rather slow. Also, the screens on Spider-man are rather far away. From my (probably poor) interpretation of the Midway Mania concept art, the screens look to be much closer to the ride vehicle, which could possibly put an extra strain on the eyes. That in combination to any minor spinning would be enough to make those with weak stomachs get nauseated.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 To anyone with concerns over the quality of Star Tours 2.0, I only have two words for you: George Lucas. If you think he's going to OK something that isn't a state of the art E-Ticket experience, you're very, very mistaken.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror Ah, George Lucas. The mind that helped bring us CAPTAIN EO. Heh heh. I'm kidding. The 1980's we were all rediscovering 3D, and rediscovering the tricks were a part of that. Now, there's nothing to prove. Great effects are effects that don't FEEL like they're competing for attention with the story, and the very nature of this attraction begs for that sensation of illusion - that you're really jetting through the vastness of space. If they can pull that off, in the manner Daannzzz suggested, it'll be brilliant, it will become more of a "ride" if the sideports are visible, more immersive. This is the Star Tours I wanted when it OPENED originally. It's more like the STAR TREK experience that's been enjoyed in Vegas for years, but this will have the advantage of 2007 and the Disney touch, the Lucas touch. We're in for a treat on this one.
Originally Posted By brotherdave >>"Toy Story Midway mania ride the 3D combined with the spinning cars is making too many people sick. Im concerned that the same problem will be ampliphied on Star Tours." It depends on the motions of the vehicle. The reasons it shouldn't be a problem on Star Tours is that the rider will always be at a fixed distance from the screen, looking at it at the same angle. On Spider-man, the 3D screens are seen from a moving vantage point, but the motions of the vehicle is rather slow. Also, the screens on Spider-man are rather far away. From my (probably poor) interpretation of the Midway Mania concept art, the screens look to be much closer to the ride vehicle, which could possibly put an extra strain on the eyes. That in combination to any minor spinning would be enough to make those with weak stomachs get nauseated.<< I think the motion sickness factor is increased also by the fact that you're 'focusing' on a smaller section of the screens while trying to aim your targeting gun. Although 3-D imagery has vastly improved over the years, it's still not perfect when compared to natural 3-D vision in the real world. It's this 'confusion' in the brain with what your mind 'thinks' is happening vs. what is actually 'physically' happening. And sometimes, the brain just doesn't respond well to it! (And we all know what those results can lead too!)
Originally Posted By imtigger2 In my opinion... Spiderman is THE best simulator ride ever created. It easily tops anything Disney has ever done with 3D or motion simulators .. or both. The story, the show, the surprises and how it's all combined into a seemless experience just blows me away. Even if Star Tours was to include 3D and better simulation effects, it wouldn't come close to what's going on with the Spiderman attraction. Now, try putting 3D screens and tech into Indy Jones or Dinosaur and then you're getting there. (just kidding, don't EVEN go there Disney... I'm tired of looking at "screens" lately, truly. let's get back to animatronics, can we?) Dan B Carlsbad, CA
Originally Posted By Mr X >>In my opinion... Spiderman is THE best simulator ride ever created.<< I wouldn't exactly call it a "simulator" but yes, I agree. In fact, I think Spiderman is in the top 3 greatest theme park attractions in the world, sometimes number one (it varies depending on what I've experienced most recently ). IF they can pull off a Star Tours that rivals Spidey though...whoa, how AWSOME would that be!!?? I FINALLY have an excuse to make plans to go back to DisneyWorld!!
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Okay, I'm a little confused. Everyone is speaking like this is a done deal when it just sounds like its a rumor at the moment. Does anyone know how confirmed this is? And even if they do, does it imply ALL the effects that were stated will come to light? Also, when is it suppose to arrive? This year? 2009? What's the timeline? Just seems odd to me people are arguing over something that might just be made up in someone's head out there. Don't get me wrong, speculation is what drives these boards lol, but maybe we are jumping the gun a little, that's all.
Originally Posted By imtigger2 "I wouldn't exactly call it a "simulator" but yes, I agree. " Sure it is!! It's a ahhh... Spider/getting thrown/getting blown up/falling and getting saved simulator! Yes, I certainly LOVE my Disney attractions, but wow... Spiderman just blows me away every time.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 The 3D being used on Midway Mania is being tweaked and refined. There were reports during test runs at WDI that people were getting sick because of the 3D, but apparently they've been working on it and it's pretty much non-existent at this point. They know full well they can't have an attraction making masses of people sick again. Even on Crush's Coaster at WDSP there were initial reports of nausea on the coaster part because there was nothing to focus the eyes on, but WDI went in and fixed that so it doesn't happen. So, I trust that they won't make Star Tours any more nauseating that it already is, LOL!
Originally Posted By WorldDisney So can anyone answer my question? Does anyone know how much this is truth vs rumor and WHEN is this suppose to all happen? Its just hard to be excited about something that may not be anymore than internet fodder .
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "If you think he's going to OK something that isn't a state of the art E-Ticket experience, you're very, very mistaken." He ok'd the last two Star Wars films and they were were crap. So why should I trust that this upgrade will be stellar just because he had something to do with it? With that said, I agree that the 3D effects for this sound promising. Yes, the 3D thing is overused, but this is one instance where it makes complete sense. With the arrival of this Star Tours upgrade maybe they can remove some of the older and dated 3D movies from the parks.
