Originally Posted By xrayvision I love the DCA discount pass, if it applies folks outside of Southern California. I also like the 10 year pass. And, I agree with Constance that it could create a loss if you find yourself unable to go a few of the years during your pre-paid decade pass (kinda like buying season tickets to something then can't make it to several events). It's a great deal though if you are able to go every year. The Tour Only pass (and Shopping/Dining Pass) is nice and I wonder if a turnstile ticket check would need to be implemented at ride and show entrances to verify that folks in queues have attraction passes and not just Tour passes. BTW, I hope that a ride coupon program (A-E Tickets) is not reintroduced at DLR. Not fun to deal with.
Originally Posted By believe I like the general admin ticket, but I don't think they will implement. They would have to hire extra CMs to be "ticket takers" at the entrance of each ride. When they had the Ticket books long ago, they had ticket takers at each attractions. Once the current passport system was implemented, they got rid of all the ticket taker CMs. Only the Fastpass rides have ticket takers now. I don't know if the nighttime passes are such a good idea. So many people stay late in the park anyways nowadays, although they leave after the fireworks and F! But then again, between 10pm to Midnight, the park does empty out. If you can fill up the park between 10pm to Midnight - or better yet, open till 1am (like the old days), they can cash in on that crowd. Have some late night entertainment to satisfy the late comers - Videopolis anyone? or EleTRONica? Charge people $30 to come in after 9pm or 10pm on Saturdays and Fridays...
Originally Posted By doombuggy If they did the get in the park but no rides thing, They might as well bring back the ticket book. A CM would have to check EVERY person at rides and guests would have to show a ticket.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Can't they just give you a stamp or something if you have ride access?
Originally Posted By doombuggy a CM would have to be standing there and check EVERY person. hand stamp, wrist band, ticket, which ever was used.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Well, there are always CMs telling you where to board or when to get on a ride, they could do a quick visual scan of everyone without much problem. They stand there count people out and tell you which number to line up by, or where to stand. It would be nothing for them to say, "okay, let's see the stamps"
Originally Posted By BellesLibrarian I would have used the $30 before 3 pass last Saturday. Our AP was blacked out and we had an early evening flight that night. Didn't want to pay $50 to unblock the pass. Didn't even want to ride any rides, just wanted to hang out and soak up the ambiance. With the park opening at 8 AM that day, would have considered a $30 pass. On the other hand, I prefer the simplicity of California's system versus the complexity of how things are done in Florida. Yep, I'm feeling indecisive today.
Originally Posted By believe >>>>>>>>>They stand there count people out and tell you which number to line up by, or where to stand. It would be nothing for them to say, "okay, let's see the stamps"<<<<<<<<<<< Can you imagine someone waiting an hour to get on Indy - as you site down on the jeep, the CM tells you that you've got to get off cause you didn't pay full price? And the delay it would cause the attraction if the person didn't get off? If that happens enough, the rides would go back up and cause a shutdown. That's why they need to check at the entrance of the ride. I'm thinking only a small percentage - maybe 10% would take up general admission. So it might not be worth Disney to offer that.
Originally Posted By Terminus They just write in permanant marker on your forehead "NON-RIDER!" in big letters. Then every employee knows at a glance that you can't ride the rides. Seriously though, the Partial Day Ticket thing I could see. The Touring Only/No Rides thing is a bad idea. Disney California Adventure Discount Ticket? Did someone think of this BEFORE they decided to do all the park upgrades? I'd image they'd never seriously consider the idea when they can probably get full price out of people once some of the additions/renovations are done... Hell, it seems just as busy as DL is already.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 I figured the DCA discount ticket would be to still get people in who may have been waiting for the big upgrades coming on line. Kind of DIsney's way of avoiding what happened at IOA before HP opened - people stayed away and the attendance dropped because why would people waste money on a trip to see construction walls when they could defer their holiday, come a year later and see a brand new land/attraction. I know *I* am putting off any trip to the US before all the stuff is done and dusted.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I think the DCA discount ticket is just another incentive to get people out of DL an into DCA. Most of this stuff seems to be designed to distribute crowds more efficiently.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Okay how about this for the Touring option to distinguish between riders and non riders. Give riders some kind of card with a scan code and have the scan reader hooked up to the turnstiles, if you don't scan your ticket/card it won't turn to let you on. And you can't scan your friends in because it will only let you scan it once within a certain time. Ahhh, that probably wouldn't work because you could take turns with your card, but something like that that I'm not smart enough to think of the exact procedure. Disney must have SOMETHING in mind that would work or they wouldn't be considering it, no?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Ahhh, that probably wouldn't work because you could take turns with your card, but something like that that I'm not smart enough to think of the exact procedure." With bar codes each ticket issued in a given day could have a unique identity, so it probably could work.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance How could they stop a friend from riding and handing it off to their friend to ride right after?
Originally Posted By LuLu I read about most of these a couple months ago. Who knows how seriously they're being considered, and even if they still are. The only one I don't remember is the holiday special ticket. Wondering how that would work. Lots of families stay for several days during the holidays. All of a sudden they can't get into DL one or more of those days without having a separate, special ticket? These "simple" ideas change everything. What happens when you can no longer park-hop with your parkhopper?
Originally Posted By Terminus Well... Then I hope they change the name! That would just be confusing...
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "Most of this stuff seems to be designed to distribute crowds more efficiently." Except for the no-rides-pass, which only serves to create more crowds. It doesn't matter how they are distributed, they are simply people in the walkways making it more difficult to get around. Most of these ideas sound good in theory, but would be very difficult to implement in reality. The evening pass would work pretty easily, but the others all have fatal flaws (no-rides pass means there's an extra CM needed at every attraction, what to do for multi-day tickets with holiday surcharge, etc). This sounds like a plan that one of the accountants came up with before consulting the industrial engineering team. Fine ideas on paper, but they just won't work so well once you start trying to do it with real people.
Originally Posted By Terminus >> Except for the no-rides-pass, which only serves to create more crowds. It doesn't matter how they are distributed, they are simply people in the walkways making it more difficult to get around. << And they're going to stop and talk and try to read the little map in the middle of the Adventureland walkway and really make me mad... Yeah, this sounds like a bad idea already!
Originally Posted By a1stav The ten year option is very interesting, but I would not purchase it if the tickets expire, year after year. Also if the tickets worked at WDW as well as DL I would more likely try it out. It would be simpler if they just offered you a bulk, never expire option (like they already do at WDW). I would purchase 50 days of Disneyland/WDW tickets for $1500 today if they offered it.
