Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt My argument is this simple. Get rid of the Annual Pass, it is the source of all the trouble." I don't think overcrowding is a problem that is specifically related to APs. Furthermore, while APs are a source of irritation for many, they do provide Disney with a built in audience of loyal customers that seems to ride the tide through good times and bad. Considering that, and other likely unknown benefits to the company, I wouldn't anticipate that Disney would ever eliminate annual passes altogether. Another thing to consider is that DLR does not exist in a bubble. As long as competitors offer APs so will Disney.
Originally Posted By Terminus My argument is simple. Get rid of regular tickets, it is the source of all the trouble. Instead only sell Annual Passes...
Originally Posted By Terminus Get rid of all the one/two/three day tickets and only sell Annual Passes. People that wanted to come might come more often (since it unlimited for the year and they spent all that money on their passes) and would probably spend more time when they did come. Then your part wouldn't be as crowded, because all of those people that only wanted to come for two or three days might change their minds and not come. Makes as much sense as your suggestion...
Originally Posted By LuLu >>How is the holiday extra ticket any different than what they are doing with Halloween this year? What are they doing with the multi-day tickets then?<< The regular day guests can stay til 6 or 7 on the Halloween Party days. The "Premium Holiday Ticket" in the link describes a full-day ticket with limited guests, thereby precluding multi-day parkhopper holders from doing any hopping that day, at DLR. And as far as the 10-year deal - it says once per year for 10 years. Pretty sure they'd expire yearly. You're getting a discount cuz Disney wants you to come every year, or forfeit your chance!
Originally Posted By tashajilek "My argument is simple. Get rid of regular tickets, it is the source of all the trouble. Instead only sell Annual Passes..." How would a family taveling from half way around the world benefit from paying hundreds more?
Originally Posted By Terminus Parks would "supposedly" be less crowded, because less people would be willing to spend the money... Plus, they could come back 51 weeks later again for the follow-up trip, and Disney wins, getting them twice in a year, where they only might have went once. I don't know. I'm just thinking it's silly to think getting rid of APs would fix the "problem"... So I'm being silly, too, just the opposite way.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance "I was at a fair last weekend and to ride the wooden rollercoaster it would cost 22 for 2 people!! and that isnt Disneyland. I couldnt imagine what the asking prices would be for Indy or SM. I would think that far less people would go and Disney losing $$$. They stopped the ticket system for some reason?" I know! Fairs are totally ridiculous! It was 7.50 per ride that my kids wanted to ride together at the fair. For kids tiny, stupid rides!
Originally Posted By danyoung >My argument is this simple. Get rid of the Annual Pass, it is the source of all the trouble.< Hmmm, let's see, 900,000 people, each paying around $300 a pop, adds up to $270 MILLION bucks. A year. Nope, I don't see Disney eliminating the AP program any time soon.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance " The regular day guests can stay til 6 or 7 on the Halloween Party days. The "Premium Holiday Ticket" in the link describes a full-day ticket with limited guests, thereby precluding multi-day parkhopper holders from doing any hopping that day, at DLR. " Got it Lulu
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I know! Fairs are totally ridiculous! It was 7.50 per ride that my kids wanted to ride together at the fair. For kids tiny, stupid rides!" If you think that's bad what about the coaster at the New York, New York Hotel in Vegas. $14.00 for ONE ride!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Hmmm, let's see, 900,000 people, each paying around $300 a pop, adds up to $270 MILLION bucks. A year. Nope, I don't see Disney eliminating the AP program any time soon." Yep, especially considering the ridiculous investment that they are making in Anaheim right now. If fans want an E ticket at DL, a phase 2 for DCA, and a third theme park they better pray that Disney continues to find ways to increase revenue in Anaheim because none of that is going to happen if Disney can't justify the expense and doesn't have the revenue stream to finance it.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I'm always leery of fair rides. I mean, they take them up and down so often and so quickly. I just can imagine lots of room for error.
Originally Posted By Terminus It seems like you'd hear about a lot of fair ride accidents on the news, then. Which you probably don't. I know what you mean, because I think of that, too. It's just I've never really heard about a lot of problems with the rides. Unless they somehow cover up the deaths or something! It's a conspiracy!
Originally Posted By a1stav "Hmmm, let's see, 900,000 people, each paying around $300 a pop, adds up to $270 MILLION bucks. A year. Nope, I don't see Disney eliminating the AP program any time soon." Let's say that the average pass holder goes to the parks 12 times a year. That equals 25.22 per visit. That low of a price causes "dangerous levels attendance at Disneyland, the infrastructure is just not up to it." The AP program is a heroin monkey on Disneyland's back. Can't live with it can't live without it. OK don't get rid of the AP just charge the same as Tokyo Disney Resort 75000yen or $893.92 per year. Get rid of the summer $99 three day tickets, the 2fer. Lower the day pass to around $50 and every one will benefit. The system that is now in place rewards the cheap so-cal visitor and bilks the free spending out of town visitor. The attendance would balance out and Disney would make just as much money as before.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance It might be a conspiracy started by the scary ride operators that look like they haven't bathed in a few years! We took the kids to the fair a few weeks ago, and my two little Curiousers were in line together to get on a ride. It was like a boat, so when it was there turn to get in, the ride operator held his arms out to my son so he could lift him into the boat. My son froze, his eyes got as big as saucers, and he said "MOMMY." as he slowly started backing up, lol. I don't blame him they guy was C R E E P Y!
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 Ughhh I have a headache from reading all those options. I don't understand the partial day ticket...how are they going to clear out people from the park at 3?
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance You don't have to clear out if you have an all day ticket, you can just buy a partial day ticket if you want and only be admitted after 3pm.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance There is just something about all of these potential options that is tickling my fancy!
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 No it said you can get a partial ticket for opening to 3pm and then 330 to closing...but how would they clear out all the partial ticket people?
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Oh, I don't know, they must have in mind some sort of scanning system if they would be introducing all of these varied options. It would kind of be crappy to have to keep track of everyone's tickets and keep them handy to scan at every ride. Because you know I'd be the one to do it for my family.
