Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance "Where's the over 25 night? That's what I would pay for." I agree! As long as my two kids can come, I'm fine with everyone else's kids staying at home
Originally Posted By SafariRob Believe me. If Disney thought they could sell enough tickets for an over 25 day, they would probably create one. I think it's fairly safe to assume that Casey Jr, Storybook Land and maybe even Dumbo would be walk-ons. I wonder how many balloons they would sell that day? Fun to think about.
Originally Posted By a1stav All the talk about cost per ride brings us back to the days of ride tickets. In 1966 you could get a Disneyland 10 ride ticket book for $4. In 2009 dollars that would equate to 26.16 that also included admission to the park. This was after the very large capital expenditure of New Orleans Square and Pirates of the Caribbean still an E ticket today. So back then it cost you $2.62 per ride, mind you that was A-E not all E tickets. That was the beauty of the ticket system, it spread out your day to enjoy all of what Disneyland had to offer rather than jamming in as many E-tickets you can to "get your money's worth".
Originally Posted By a1stav Oh and a single "E" ticket cost 60 cents adjusted for inflation $3.92. So in my mind the "E" ticket rides at a theme park are worth about $4 to $5 per ride.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster doombuggy: "You need to go back and read what I said. I was talking if they had a 1k PAP. If u went every Saturday or once a month after 10 thats 1k. even with a 6 day hopper being $216 after 30 visits a 1k PAP would still be a better deal. As it is now a PAP is a steal after 12 visits." You're making a false argument. You are assuming there are people who pay full price to visit Disneyland more than ten times per year. Those people do not exist. AP's do not provide cheaper admission. They create extra visits.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>But would it be fair? I don't think we really need to create a "class system" in the park where the rich get stuff better than everyone else... It's already like that too many other places and in life in general. =)<<< Disneyland has always been like this. We used to have some trips where we would stay at the DLH, eat at the Tahitian Terrace and Blue Bayou, and buy extra ticket books so we could go on whatever we wanted. Personally I want to see Fast Pass go away and APs go up to at least double their price point. I think it would make a positive difference for all. Regular visitors would still get a fab savings on using an AP, and not so regular visitors would get a more gentle park experience I think. Although I used to be against the idea of ticket books coming back, at least back then people seemed to value the attractions (I doubt people would talk on their cell phone in an attraction they had to pay for), and Disney used to maintain their attractions better with little staggered opening and closing hours to ensure the revenue came through. Then there was a lot of entertainment to ensure that people without ride tickets had a great time too. This issues are not as big a deal in California, but in Florida and Paris, this is sorely needed.
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 Nobody has answered this question!!! How would they do an opening to 3 oclock ticket? Would they clear everyone out at 3? that seems silly...
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Yes they have, read the thread. It would require either cast members on the attractions to check or reader machines.
Originally Posted By doombuggy "AP's do not provide cheaper admission. They create extra visits." Same diff. "You're making a false argument" You look at it your way, I look at it the right way. "AP's do not provide cheaper admission" Sorry but yes they do, when you break it down. So if an egg is 10cents for 1, and a doz is 50cents. Buying the doz doesn't make the eggs cheaper? It just gives you more eggs?
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones doombuggy, I'll try to explain it better. Let's assume that an annual pass to Disneyland is $100 and a 1-day ticket is $50. Your demand (what you are willing to pay) for visits to Disneyland in a single year may look like this. 1st visit = $50 2nd visit = $40 3rd visit = $30 4th visit = $20 5th visit = $10 6th visit = $0 Will you choose to buy an annual pass? Let's see. You are willing to visit 5 times in a year at a price of $150. Because the annual pass is $100, you will purchase an annual pass. Even though the 1-day ticket price is $50 and the annual pass is $100, the annual pass "pays for itself" after 3 visits, not 2. Okay, now let's look at another person who doesn't like theme parks as much. Their demand looks like this. 1st visit = $50 2nd visit = $20 3rd visit = $10 4th visit = $0 5th visit = $0 In a single year, this person is willing to pay $80 to visit Disneyland 3 times. Will he purchase an annual pass? No. An annual pass is $100. Since he derives no more benefit from his 4th visit, he is not even interested in an annual pass. Some people might tell him, "It pays for itself with just two visits!" Not for this guy. Some people have a demand for Disneyland that looks like this. 1st visit = $50 2nd visit = $0 This person will not visit more than 1 day in a single year because he doesn't think a 2nd visit is even worth it. He has his fill after one day. Maybe he was only willing to go with his kids for one day. He'd rather spend his weekend on the couch watching C-SPAN. And, of course, many people have a demand for Disneyland that looks like this. 1st day = $0 This person has no interest in going to Disneyland at all. We don't consciously think about these concepts every time we purchase things, but they tend to reflect real life surprisingly well.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones And some people have a demand curve for Disneyland that looks like this! 1st visit = $50 2nd visit = $49.99 3rd visit = $49.98 4th visit = $49.97 and so on. You might call this person obsessive. For them, an annual pass is a *really* good deal.
Originally Posted By mickeymorris1234 Or others 1st visit - It's Disneyland!!! 2nd visit - It's Disneyland!!!!!!!! 3rd Visit - Did they move that bench? Its Disneyland!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Oh and a single "E" ticket cost 60 cents adjusted for inflation $3.92. So in my mind the "E" ticket rides at a theme park are worth about $4 to $5 per ride." I'm old enough to remember that one of the biggest complaints about ticket books was that you almost always ended up with some left over, especially during the busy season.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>You know I think the only people who do not like the AP program are AP holders.<< DUH! If you only go once every year or two and its always wall to wall people and 60% or more of that herd are AP holders, what is there to like? Kidding aside, we used to have APs and would schedule our trips so that we would get two visits per AP year. Once the crowds went bonkers we stopped renewing.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Heard about this back in July, I'm really hoping they do this. That half day tic sounds awesome.
Originally Posted By Terminus What if they had a special ticket that lets you in free, but you have to ride "Small World" 10 times in a row before you can do anything else?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Happily would do that. That is how I knew I should propose to Sarah. We rode IASW about 6 or 7 times without getting off when we were at DLP (her request). I proposed 3 weeks later (nearly did there on the ride).
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance "What if they had a special ticket that lets you in free, but you have to ride "Small World" 10 times in a row before you can do anything else?" That sounds like my husbands dream ticket. It's his favorite ride. And he hates rides that go fast or anything, so he'd buy it, lol.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I'd do it to to get in for free. I'd wear headphones after a couple times though, lol.
