Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>And in winter, the Osborne Lights. Also the eateries are promising, but I have never had a good cast member at 50's Prime Time or Sci Fi Dine In sadly.<<< The OSoDL actually gets us to go to DHS for the Holidays. Fantasmic doesn't.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>Funny thing, on the Backlot Tour the spiel makes a big deal about this great view of the Earful Tower. Once you see the "great view", you're looking at the Tower from the side, can't even see that there are two Mickey ears on top. Hard to say the Earful Tower is the park's landmark when you can barely see it from inside the park. <<<< I don't understand people when they say this... The Earful Tower is HUGE when viewed from the parking lot. The whole "skyline" is. You only loose site of it when you get close to the gate. And it's your first "view" of WDW from World Drive, too. It's only lost when you are in the park, which is actually fine for the thematics of it. Once on a "set" you shouldn't see the tower.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Seriously, though, the Backlot Tour is fine to ride once a decade. But it takes up a lot of room for a simple "diversion." The queue between the "Michael Bay teaches up about water effects" and the actual tram ride would be a lot more interesting if they had props that were from real movies and labelled as such. And, dude, how can the Backlot Tour make the Studios "actually that"? Nothing is filmed there, and I don't even see any backlot sets on the ride. For my money, as a child of the 80's, the highlight of the ride is the spacecraft from Flight of the Navigator parked in the boneyard.<<< True, it does take up a lot of valuable room. I feel it's worth it, though. It's a experience that you get at a real working studio, adding to the theme of the park. Nothing may be themed there, but there are WDI offices and there are some departments.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 "-A CM was saying how they put the Sorceror Hat in front of the theater b/c they didn't have rights to the image...can anyone tell me if this is true? And if they take down the hat...where will my beloved pin store go? lol" No truth to that. It has been a rumor since the hat went up. The reason the hat is in front of the theater (which while I personally like the hat think it should be somewhere else)is because the theater, which ties the whole Hollywood Street theme together, is not a Disney icon but an already existing icon for a different company. The hat is a distinctly Disney icon.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> True, it does take up a lot of valuable room. I feel it's worth it, though. It's a experience that you get at a real working studio, adding to the theme of the park. Nothing may be themed there, but there are WDI offices and there are some departments. << If you've ever ridden the Studio Tram at Universal Hollywood, you'd see why a lot of us think the Disney version is embarrassingly sparse. I honestly don't know if there's a more disappointing attraction at WDW.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 My daughter thought LMA and Indie were boring, her husband liked them both. Different tastes.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I think they get bored because of the set up between stunts*** Bingo, Dave. That's exactly the issue, people have the attention span of a gnat these days. But it's not really all that new. I remember being shocked when friends would come back from brand new Epcot in the early 80's and claim it was "boring". And, sadly, look at Epcot today. Dumbed down, and practically everything is over in 5 minutes or less. THAT'S why people rave about Pooh but get bored by an incredible, if slightly slow paced, stunt show.
Originally Posted By leobloom ^^This is a new one. Stunt shows are now an indicator of a culture's intelligence and inquistiveness? Uh, right. Or maybe the show could just be poorly executed.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Stunt shows are now an indicator of a culture's intelligence and inquistiveness (sic)?*** No, that's not what I said. ***Or maybe the show could just be poorly executed*** Even if so, it doesn't explain why, as Dave said, people rave about subpar stuff while loathing this particular offering.
Originally Posted By leobloom ***Stunt shows are now an indicator of a culture's intelligence and inquistiveness (sic)?*** >> No, that's not what I said. << Oh, pardon me. "Inquisitiveness." Thanks for noticing, Mr. X. Nice to know someone cares enough to read my posts with a fine-toothed comb.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo YW = Your Welcome or Ya whatever? Lol I think there is a lot to do with it. In Europe, we have folks with the attention span of gnats too, but we also have loads of educational programmes in the main stream TV (last night on the BBC Sarah and I enjoyed a show where a comedien and a food critic travelled around Britain tasting local alcohol to put in a National Pub - whiskey, gin, different beers and wines, and snacks as well, they then had a competition to see who would sell more drinks, the second show was about a guy who traveled around Siberia living with different tribes and learning the shamen traditions for the summer solstace (banned during the Soviet years), how horse breeders north of the artic circle live and then working with nomadic reindeer herders in the most Northernlu part of Russia (they looked part chinese, part native american indian, and they spoke Russian like you would imagine a navajo speaking Russian - facinating). Neither show would likely be shown on ABC or CBS. I am not saying it is better (though I would rather my kids watch this than another American Idol/CSI type show), but while this is more typical of a European show, I think the European audiences enjoy watching the stunts being set up too. I am not sure the average WDW visitor feels the same way.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I have never watched the stunt show and have never, ever desired to watch it. I don't go to Disney to seat in bleachers. Since we have NASCAR why would we want to go to Disney to see car races or stunt driving? I would much rather be in a car doing "odd" manuvers at Test Track. While I am vacationing at Disney my time is valuable. I just think the stunt show takes up too much time. Time I could be going on multiple rides and attractions.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I'm not a fan of LMA at all, at least in FLA. I'm not a NASCAR fan at all, either. But I do generally enjoy stunt shows. I just find this one terribly contrived and boring. I've sat through it maybe 4-5 times now since it opened and I always feel the same. I know it wasn't the slamdunk that TDO expected it do be too.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ They expect EVERYTHING to be a slamdunk. From fanclubs, to plush, to E Tics that replaced better E Tics... It's the patented Disney Arrogance!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>^ They expect EVERYTHING to be a slamdunk.<<< Well to be fair, it was a slam dunk in Paris, being one of the most popular attractions in the resort. Another sign that the different markets have different tastes, and mine are more European now. and it really should never be compared to NASCAR - car ballets, backward jumps, 2 wheel driving, motorcyclists on fire, it is amazing.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Now the Indy show is contrived and boring, and was since Day 1. And it saddens me to say it as I am a huge Indy fan.