Originally Posted By demderedoseguys >I feel a personal judgment coming no matter what I say. I feel if I say 19 then it will be met with "that explains a lot" and I feel if I say 29 then one might say "you haven't been around long enough to understand these kind of things" and I feel if I say 39 then someone might tell me to or "act my age". Based on my feelings I won't reveal my age yet. Level with me Ursula is that why you wanted to know my age? Please be honest. If I assumed to much and you are not setting me up then I'm sorry for assuming that Ursula.< Sounds like you are judging yourself. I actually think you are probably not that young since you mentioned that you have a little sister with a child. That being said, I tend to agree with you that a newborn doesn't belong at WDW but every parent has the right to bring their child wherever they choose. I would never have done it with my kids unless there were special circumstances, but I know many people who have brought newborns to WDW not because they want to "show off" the baby, but because it meant that their older children would be able to go. It's not for you or me or anyone else to judge other people without having walked in their shoes, not just at Disney, but in life in general.
Originally Posted By mousegeezer >It's not for you or me or anyone else to judge other people without having walked in their shoes, not just at Disney, but in life in general.< Somebody gets it halleluah. I will add that my daughter and daughter-inlaw got pregnant about two months apart and I told them both not to be disappointed if I didn't spend any time with the babies until they could walk. That was because I thought they were boring and, "Out of it." WRONG. While they may not remember the stimuli is invaluable to their growth. Do any of you remember Johnny five the robot from, "Short Circuit?" Input, input, input. The more they get the brighter they are.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys ^ Come to think of it,after bringing my sons to Disney from when they were about 8 years old and right through their teens and beyond-they are both married now and the whole family still goes- bringing an infant may actually be easier. Outside of changing a diaper or two and a little crying ever now and then (which you get at home anyway), there some major advantages : They can't talk back. They have to do what you say. They won't bug you to buy everything they see. When they get hungry, you stick a bottle in their mouth. I love it. An epiphany. Sign me up. Bring on the grandchildren!!!
Originally Posted By danyoung >While they may not remember the stimuli is invaluable to their growth.< I would submit that the stimuli from a WDW vacation is pretty much the same as from a trip to your local mall. But overall I get your point.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys >I would submit that the stimuli from a WDW vacation is pretty much the same as from a trip to your local mall. But overall I get your point.< Comparing a mall visit to Disney, are we ? Tell that to the newborn. Babies soak in much more than you think.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> (of course, in emergency situations we'd use other facilities (like a Pirates of the Caribbean boat or something), but generally we planned the day around trips to the baby center and it worked out great) << Very convenient also. When you're done all you have to do is set the used diaper afloat. Kind of like survivors abandoning ship. I got it X. I remembered the original story about it.
Originally Posted By mousegeezer demer, Grandkids are far better. When they want to play the party is on. But, when they stink, you hand them to their parents. When they are cranky, you hand them to their parents. When they are hungry, you hand them to their parents. When they are tired, you send them and their parents home. I would rather they got their stimulation on Main Street than at the mall.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Comparing a mall visit to Disney, are we ? Tell that to the newborn. Babies soak in much more than you think.< I'm going to be stubborn and stand by my statement. There's just not much difference in a baby's eyes between people and characters and pretty colors in a Disney park and people and pretty colors (no characters, sorry) in the local mall. I'm talking about newborns here - I'm sure at a certain age (6 months? 10 months?) they start to differentiate what they're seeing, and then yes, Mickey's smiling face will mean something to him.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys Do you remember when you were a newborn? Well, neither do I so I guess we're both in the same position. We really don't know if a newborn can tell the difference between Disney and a mall. I'll ask the next one I see at WDW which they prefer. I'll keep you posted.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Dan, I was most definitely kidding. It was sort of an inside joke, a shout out to an LPer who actually DID experience such a thing (poor guy!). >>> A day late and a dollar short, but here goes: I was the one that saw a diaper changed on WDW's POTC. And, it wasn't something that happened mid-ride, but started almost as soon as the boats started moving, perhaps even before we got out of the station. It was as if the accident happened while they were in the queue, and they didn't want to take the time to get out of line and take care of business properly but instead decided to do it on the ride. Mr X gave me the perfect opportunity to take this thread up to the next level, but unfortunately my delay makes this all a bit anti-climatic it would seem.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Little X first went to Disney parks at 4 months of age, and has been countless times since (her favorite is DisneySea, but she likes Epcot a lot too but we skipped boring American Adventure anyway), all the way up to her most recent visit a couple of months ago at age 5 (she rode Tower of Terror for the first time...loved it!). She has *never* misbehaved (why would she, she loves the place!?), and she has been a joy to many, adding extra magic and smiles wherever she went cause she's so danged cute (privileged LPers who have met her will attest to that fact). >>> Absolutely too cute for her own good. And let me share an experience I had with Little X at TDS, which goes down as one of the most terrifying events of my life. Little X was still very little, as in still stroller age and not yet a toddler. After doing the baby swap thing all day, Mr and Mrs X decide that they really want to ride Raging Spirits together, so they say "Hey SuperDry, you don't mind watching Little X for ahwile for us, do you?" and before I could open my mouth, they disappeared into the queue. So I'm left sitting near the entrance of Raging Spirits, with the water and the fire effects and all. Just me and a baby, and I know absolutely nothing about babies. What if the little one decides to wake up, and sees that both mommy and daddy are nowhere to be found, and there's just this strange foreigner hovering nearby, and decides to freak out? I could see the whole thing play out in my mind: the baby starts bawling at full volume, and I have no idea what to do, and can't even communicate with anyone nearby that tries to help. Thankfully, Little X was blissfully unaware of her caretaker's anxiety, and just slept through the whole thing.
Originally Posted By Mr X And then there was that time Little X was just so excited to be at DisneySea she went running through the park to catch a glimpse of some show, fell down, and got a bloodied knee! A brave child though, no crying at all. Oh, wait. No. That was SuperDry. ;D
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys ^ And then there was danyoung at age 1 week telling his parents that he preferred the mall to WDW Only joshing dan
Originally Posted By Clopin When I went to WDW last year, was in line behind a man holding a newborn baby. Another woman came by and said how cute she was and asked how old she was. He answered 6 weeks, then looked at my friends and I and muttered under his breath, "and she's sure to remember this trip forever...". It was exactly what we were thinking!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 When this topic (or FastPass or refillable mugs or DDP topics) come up why not just post a link to one of the 975 threads that have said the exact same thing? This way we can save time and keystrokes.
Originally Posted By mele <<"and she's sure to remember this trip forever...". It was exactly what we were thinking! >> It's pretty naive to think that parents only do fun things with their kids so that their kids have fun memories. I enjoy Disneyland with my kids as much as, or maybe even more than, my kids enjoy being there. My daughter LOVES the photos of herself at DL at 18 months old and at 2 years old. She doesn't remember the trips but she loves the photos. Even that's enough of a reason.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< And then there was that time Little X was just so excited to be at DisneySea she went running through the park to catch a glimpse of some show, fell down, and got a bloodied knee! A brave child though, no crying at all. Oh, wait. No. That was SuperDry. ;D >>> But I got to go to First Aid and have a nurse make it all better.
