Originally Posted By Mr X Thanks for the update, Lee. I imagine part of the problem is the government demand that all large businesses reduce power by 20-30%? When (if?) they do reopen, I would imagine the backstage areas would be very uncomfortable places indeed since they'll have to cut back somewhere and onstage is a no-go. ***It is sheer coincidence that some parts of Chiba prefecture have suffered worse damage than TDR - just pure luck*** I thought I read somewhere that the parks themselves, at least, took extra precautions. That would seem logical, given how pristine they look compared to the surroundings at the resort (parking lot, Maihama station, the roads out by the remote parking areas).
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "Mr X thanks for spreading the word out and if your looking for it to get more exposure try posting it on a board like Micechat where more people will actually read it." How can you make ANY sense from posts surrounded by gifs of dancing hippos, twelves inch sigs that include lists of EVERY theme park visit made by that person since 1974 and page-stretching photo montages of stuffed dogs riding in monorail nose cones!?! No thank you. At least here I know the posters are adults(mostly)who can form sentences(the majority of times)and the emphasis is on discussion, rather than the equivalent of a looking at a twelve year old girl's digital scrapbook.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "Mr X thanks for spreading the word out and if your looking for it to get more exposure try posting it on a board like Micechat where more people will actually read it." Furthermore - if you feel it is such a waste of time posting here and you are doing the internet version of "pissing in the wind", why bother even doing it?
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "Since I have kept silent and not posted anything else here in the Resort thread for a number of days." Again my "dog years" theory for the interwebs holds up.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "The situation isn't good - there is no re-opening date now - OLC just don't know when they could re-open." Wow - that actually made my heart sink a little. That just sounds so kinda.....final.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "I would had(sic) thought how ever the Government promising to end rolling power outages at the end of this month would be in there(sic) favour. But I don't know the full list of other problems its(sic) currently facing." Malin - in the spirit of constructive criticism, your second sentence is a large part of the reason people here have been so annoyed by you. For myself, I have to admit one of my most traits in other people is arrogance mixed with ignorance. Just sayin'.
Originally Posted By Malin And just like clockwork here comes Bob Paris. Bob could you not put everything in the one post. Did we really need five seperate posts? Personally what you think of me has very little importance since I have zero respect for you. And in a way I really wish you would stop harrasing me everytime I come on here. Just sayin'. *** and the emphasis is on discussion *** Yeah right because this thread is a great example of discussion.
Originally Posted By Malin Tokyo Electric Power Co said on Friday it expects it will be able to meet demand for the next two months, albeit just barely, helped by power savings efforts from industrial users and households after last month's devastating earthquake. <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/08/tepco-supply-idUSL3E7F80PT20110408" target="_blank">http://www.reuters.com/article...20110408</a> It doesn't look like things are going to improve anytime soon. I think it may be time for Cast Members to start looking for new jobs. How can you reopen the parks right now. when they is just enough power to get on by with now.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>How can you make ANY sense from posts surrounded by<< Oh fer crying out loud, let's don't stoop to a website feud! Can't we all just get along? And on that note ... >>And just like clockwork here comes Bob Paris.<< Malin, shuddup. You do not have to respond to EVERY post that mentions you. It just clutters up the joint. (Response from Malin in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...)
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "And just like clockwork here comes Bob Paris." Yeah because unlike some people, I never said would not post here again. "Bob could you not put everything in the one post. Did we really need five seperate(sic) posts?" That's what happens when you are reading through a thread, responding to points from individual posts. It happens.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I'd be curious to know what "other jobd" idled cast members would be able to find right now. The country is in a huge mess and the earth still isn't done with its violent shaking. If I were any of them and had the wherewithal to do so, I'd get out of the country.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I'd be curious to know what "other jobd" idled cast members would be able to find right now. The country is in a huge mess and the earth still isn't done with its violent shaking. If I were any of them and had the wherewithal to do so, I'd get out of the country. >>> Hmmm... I see so much wrong with this I don't know quite where to start. First of all, I doubt that very few of the hourly CM's at TDR have the financial ability to suddenly move to another country. Secondly, you do realize that over half of Japan, both in terms of land mass and population, is more or less completely unaffected by the Tohoku earthquake, right? Perhaps you don't. Those areas include the second biggest city (Osaka) and many others. In those areas: - No damage from the quake (they can't even feel any shaking) - Different power grid with no shortages - No tainted water - Far enough away from Fukushima that there's no radiological danger - Their own container ports and international cargo and passenger airports with many flights to all over the world without needing to go through Tokyo. and so on. It would be far more simpler to just move to the other end of Japan. Thirdly, there's the very important issue of "where would they go?" Japanese citizens are like Americans in the sense that they can go to pretty much anywhere in the First World, and many other places, without a visa for 3-6 months, but as a tourist and without the right to work. Is your average TDR hourly CM going to be able to support themselves abroad without work, even if they live a backpacker's lifestyle?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I guess you disregarded the part about if they had the wherewithal.
Originally Posted By Mr X No, he didn't. As he said, if people have wherewithal they can just as easily move elsewhere in Japan and be unaffected by the disaster. It's like saying a hurricane victim should move to Europe when it would be just as simple to move North or to the midwest or whatever. Besides, wherewithal is HARDLY the only consideration. Besides obtaining a visa and uprooting your life, you're abandoning all your family and friends, your home, and I assume you think they should just learn some other language overnight too, since that's pretty important for daily living and there aren't any other Japanese speaking countries that I'm aware of.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I guess you disregarded the part about if they had the wherewithal. >>> As Mr X said: No, I didn't. Although you qualified it with "... and had the wherewithal", your post #32 seems to be advice that's general, but not universal, in nature. You started out talking about idled CMs, and then made a suggestion that might apply to a tiny percentage of them. Plus, for those able to uproot themselves, you completely overlooked the far more practical solution of simply moving to the other end of the country. In many of these threads that end up in a "should TDR re-open anytime soon?" discussion, there is a small core group of people that seem to be vehemently opposed to such a notion even being considered. Based on the side comments they make in putting forth their position, I almost get the sense that they have real-time tsunami footage from 3/11 playing in a loop as they continue to post things along the lines of "How can ANYONE consider re-opening TDR at this time?" Contrary to what some may believe, all of Japan was not reduced to matchsticks. In fact, by most reports, the greater Tokyo area, which is about 25% of Japan's population and economy, is largely "open for business" at this time, with few power interruptions or wide-scale damage. In fact, reports are that power interruptions will be completely gone by the end of April even without conservation efforts, although they will be back for the summer months starting in July unless substantial conservation efforts are made. It's hardly an "everyone that can get out should get out" situation.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< The situation isn't good - there is no re-opening date now - OLC just don't know when they could re-open. >>> Interesting. From what I've been reading, there will be no power problems come May 1, since enough repairs will have been made to damaged facilities, and since several power plants that happened to have been down for maintenance when the quake struck will be back in service. This will reportedly continue until July 1 or so, and once summer arrives, it will be back to power rationing of some sort. I think I read that there is some calculation that if each user can reduce consumption by 30%, then the rolling blackouts could be prevented, even during the summer, and that there might be a gov't initiative to require this to happen. With no knowledge of the specifics, and having just the information that I've read and repeated above, this makes for some interesting conditions for TDR as far as the power goes (which I think is the key remaining factor that prevents the parks from re-opening): It would seem that the parks could resume normal operating hours for May and June. This would certainly help, although not as much as many Westerners might think: unlike the US, June is one of the three LEAST busy months at TDR, as school is in session and June is widely considered the "rainy season" in Japan. What if there was a mandated 30% reduction in energy consumption this summer? One way TDR could cope with that would be to have only one park open per day. Also, if the March-April pattern repeated itself, it might be possible to have regular power consumption on the weekends, allowing for both parks to operate normally on Saturday and Sunday. As I've said on other threads, I'm sure there are smarter people than me that are working diligently on this issue, and that all that can reasonably be done, is being done.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>At least here I know the posters are adults(mostly)who can form sentences(the majority of times)and the emphasis is on discussion, rather than the equivalent of a looking at a twelve year old girl's digital scrapbook.<<< Lol, this is so true of other boards out there. Hehehe
Originally Posted By SuperDry Allow me to extrapolate more on a hypothetical government-mandated 30% reduction in power consumption that was applied across the board to non-critical commercial users during peak periods that otherwise would result in rolling blackouts. By "non-critical" I mean that this would exclude things like hospitals and important government facilities that were vital to public safety. "Non-critical" would include most commercial users, whether they be corporate headquarters, railway lines, car factories, or amusement parks. I could easily see how the powers that be might decide that the overall public interest was best served by providing reliable power to 100% of the customers at all times, even if this was at the expense of mandatory 30% conservation efforts on declared peak days and hours. How would the various parties react to such a situation this summer? Maybe rail lines would reduce their schedules, requiring more crowded carriages, longer waits, or more indirect routes. Office buildings might have their thermostats set higher than normal. Then you have certain users that cannot practically reduce their consumption by 30% and remain operating. What do to? There would be tough choices. Something like a single-shift factory that cannot operate the line with anything less than 100% of its current consumption might have to reschedule to work 12am - 8am instead of 9am - 5pm for the summer. As I mentioned earlier, perhaps TDR might have to operate only a single park on weekdays to achieve a 30% power consumption reduction. Or, perhaps they decide they keep both parks open but shut down the Disney hotels. I'm sure there are other combinations. It would be just an interesting public policy and engineering question if it were not such a serious real-life situation that affected so many people.
