Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Did I ever tell any of you that I intentionally moved to Cobb County Georgia so I could be a vote against Newt? I never have voted for him. I had only lived here a week and even I knew someone who had slept with him while he was married and a college professor. What a jerk.
Originally Posted By DAR A politician who's dishonest, hypocritical and cheat. Wow, didn't see that one coming.
Originally Posted By HyperTyper Gingrich will get no sympathy ... or vote ... from this Republican. He may try to split hairs, but when the word "hypocrite" is applied, it sticks. It doesn't matter what specific arguments Gingrich was making regarding Clinton's improprieties. Republicans argued that the line between private and public morality is nonexistent ... that a liar in his personal life is apt to lie in office. Now Gingrich expects the GOP to change their minds about that? Not happening here! Even if he wants to run for president, he has no chance of winning the GOP nomination. That said, there still IS a difference between Clinton's and Gingrich's behavior, so Clinton's fan club should not be gloating over this. Gingrich lied and broke his marriage vows ... more than once. Clinton did all that ... AND asked others to cover for him, AND made unwanted advances towards other women, AND assaulted a woman (allegedly, but with a very credible accusation against him), AND had his machine go after and trash the women who dared to speak up against him. Gingrich is a total hyporcite. Clinton is all that ... and a thug.
Originally Posted By HyperTyper Oh, and Gingrich's phraseology- that he's "fallen short" of his expectations and God's ... that's real rich. Note to Gingrich: Adultery, especially repeated adultery, is not "falling short." It's taking God's standards ... and running completely in the other direction, if not outright trashing them. Newt clearly doesn't appreciate the gravity of his behavior or attitude.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Gingrich is a total hyporcite. Clinton is all that ... and a thug." Any attempt to distinguish who's the better person but still a cheat is, well, comical.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder As for my question from earlier asking what was wrong with the quoted passage- what I was referring to wasn't the references to divorces and affairs, but that Gingrich married his high school geometry teacher. Not someone who simply WAS a geometry teacher, but HIS geometry teacher. Everybody- show of hands- who among us has married one of their high school teachers?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I'll go first- not me. Didn't date any of my teachers, didn't even lust after any of them in a juvenile high shcool way. On a semi-related note, my high school wrestling coach was a guest of the State of California for several years after he was convicted of helping himself to a cheerleader, even though she was a very willing one.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "shcool" sighhh...... You know, when you look at it, it could almost be a new hip word.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Any attempt to distinguish who's the better person but still a cheat is, well, comical.<< Yes, it is. Almost as comical as this: >>...Gingrich married his high school geometry teacher. Not someone who simply WAS a geometry teacher, but HIS geometry teacher. Everybody- show of hands- who among us has married one of their high school teachers? << But, to answer that question, Mr. Bones, I offer President Millard Fillmore, who married his teacher. Newt, being a keen student of American history was probably well aware of this, and merely wanted to emulate the last member of the Whig Party to occupy the White House.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Gingrich married his high school geometry teacher<< That's ol' Newt for ya, always looking for an angle.
Originally Posted By friendofdd Both Gingrich and Clinton are examples of people who are excellent politicians and lead lives that are, in some areas, dispicable.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Once again, I'm going to take the minority view. I don't care who newt schtupped, nor how many affairs he had while married. Same with clinton - it's not my place to tell someone else they're wrong for who they sleep with, or how often - as long as it's consensual. But what I do care about is when someone points fingers and denigrates others while doing the exact same thing. Newt did more than that - he was gunning to absolutely destroy clinton - not because of his mock outrage over sexual indescretions, but because of partisan politics. If newt could have found something else, he would have used it. He couldn't, and so he used the only scandal he could find. This is the very definition of an absence of morality, honor and personal dignity. And, as always, it comes from those who are proclaiming their own sanctity the loudest. We've said it before, but GOP scandals always resonate more because of the posturing of moral superiority that they adopt. You don't see that in democrats. And the part that I don't get? Republicans don't seem to care - the EXPECT hyprocrisy among their own.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>A politician who's dishonest, hypocritical and cheat. Wow, didn't see that one coming.<< Your point being? Is this an attempt to excuse Newt's behavior?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Yes, it is. Almost as comical as this: >>...Gingrich married his high school geometry teacher. Not someone who simply WAS a geometry teacher, but HIS geometry teacher. Everybody- show of hands- who among us has married one of their high school teachers? << What's so funny about it, pray tell?
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<Your point being? Is this an attempt to excuse Newt's behavior?>> No, I don't think so...I think he's just not too shocked by badly behaving politicians (on either side) anymore.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 >>Gingrich married his high school geometry teacher<< <That's ol' Newt for ya, always looking for an angle.> LOL! Wonderful.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>What's so funny about it, pray tell?<< It struck me as funny following the statement, "Any attempt to distinguish who's the better person but still a cheat is, well, comical." The idea that marrying a former teacher is somehow particularly egregious is as humorous (to me, anyway) as attempting to differentiate between degrees of thuggishness in cheaters.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>And the part that I don't get? Republicans don't seem to care - the(y) EXPECT hyprocrisy among their own.<< What you don't get, actually, is that about the same percentage of Republicans as anyone else are appalled when their leaders fail. It's just that the ones who rush about offering lame defenses that get all the attention. No one here, Republicans included, are offering any defense of Newt Gingrich's hypocrisy.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<<Your point being? Is this an attempt to excuse Newt's behavior?>> No, I don't think so...I think he's just not too shocked by badly behaving politicians (on either side) anymore.< that would be me, the base starting point for any politician any more is not to trust them as far as you can pick one up and throw them....and most do not disappoint
Originally Posted By jonvn "Everybody- show of hands- who among us has married one of their high school teachers?" What if you married more than one of them?
