Next-Gen Queues in the Classics?

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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    These aren't ghosts, they would be statues. Like what you see in the Library that follow you...and like the Leota headstone. ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

    <<These aren't ghosts, they would be statues. Like what you see in the Library that follow you...and like the Leota headstone. ;-)>>

    Which don't interact with you...And yea...the ghosts are interacting.
     
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    Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

    ^Not the statues. They're using the statues to interact.
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    All of this queue crap, much like Pal Mickey or VMK or FP is designed to coddle guests (and not just kiddies) who don't want to wait for anything and have the attention span of fleas.

    Don't bitch about WDI destroying Imagination or whine as to why we never got Western River Expedition because YOU are the problem. You can't just relax and unattach from the collective.

    So this stuff further denigrates the Disney Park-going experience because it says 'we know we can't keep you entertained with amazing cutting edge attractions layered with detail and story and told with amazing cutting edge special effects because you need to Tweet or check on your 876 Facebook friends (and 21 who you may actually know) or grab and touch anything that isn't nailed down and may in fact not even be a part of your own body' so we're going to give up, throw in the towel and give you apps for your whole entire theme park experience that may take the magic away, but will also take away the boredom since you live a life online where you need stimulation every 23.5 seconds or you'll die'.

    Wow! Now, that's some cynical view.

    Do I believe it? Not all of it.

    Do I believe most of it?

    Sadly, yes, I do.

    (BTW, to the idiot who was texting on his motorcycle while going 75 MPH on a two-lane road with no shoulder and oblivious to the world around him this afternoon on the edge of the Everglades, you do realize it would have been the perfect place to hide a few bodies! -- Do I need a sarcastic smiley?)

    Ah, the Spirit is back. Now, when can I go on another vacation? (that soon? really?!!!!)
     
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    Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

    <<Don't bitch about WDI destroying Imagination or whine as to why we never got Western River Expedition because YOU are the problem. You can't just relax and unattach from the collective. >>

    Hey now, don't lump me in with the rest of my idiotic generation.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub

    We are the generation that is already hooked on Disney. Disney wants to insure they also hook the future generations also. So they seem to be searching for that audiences attention(or lack of)..
    I will say we are not even aware of what is going on unless we are employed in the research. I just read an article about a new playground interactive system in a local park. Check out the future for your chidrens playground at
    <a href="http://www.playneos.com" target="_blank">http://www.playneos.com</a>
    This is for all age groups by PlayWorld Systems
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    <<Hey now, don't lump me in with the rest of my idiotic generation.>>

    Skip, not talking about you or anyone in particular.

    But that IS the mindset of a large population of USA (and especially WDW) park-goers and you can't fault WDI or TDO for reacting this way. It is the 'safe' choice ... the 'easy' one. Now, Walt Disney never did things that way and neither did his company until it became the new financial model in the mid/late 90s to the present.

    But I do understand the frustration on Disney's part. Despite the fact you CAN avoid lines if you plan smartly, most guests don't. That's why you have 180 minute waits for Test Track or Soarin. If people keep going to an Asian food location and bitching because there's no burgers and chicken fingers, then is it wrong for Disney to further Walmart to make their guests happy?

    I dunno. But I am not a people person.
     
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    Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

    <<I will say we are not even aware of what is going on unless we are employed in the research.>>

    WDW research is a joke. Haha.
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    ^^What's left of it!
     
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    Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

    <<But I do understand the frustration on Disney's part. Despite the fact you CAN avoid lines if you plan smartly, most guests don't. That's why you have 180 minute waits for Test Track or Soarin. If people keep going to an Asian food location and bitching because there's no burgers and chicken fingers, then is it wrong for Disney to further Walmart to make their guests happy?>>

    Trust me...I know. All too well.
     
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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

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    So this stuff further denigrates the Disney Park-going experience because it says 'we know we can't keep you entertained with amazing cutting edge attractions layered with detail and story and told with amazing cutting edge special effects because you need to Tweet or check on your 876 Facebook friends....<<<


    See, that's where I don't follow this argument...That's exactly what I think this is attempting on doing (Keep in mind, it's a test).

    It's adding another layer to the HM. It is high tech. It is detailed.

    This part of it is fine.

    Others? Like in SM? Or in Soarin'? Not so much.

    But this, what I think is an addition to the HM and it's story isn't concurrent with these arguments.
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    ^^What it is saying ... and not so tacitly either ... is that 'we know the HUGE 30-minute wait you may have to endure on our busy days for one of our masterpieces is too much for one to bear, so here's something for you to play with while you are waiting' ... seriously, so many folks today could never have lived in the 70s or 80s let alone further back.

    Constant stimulation.
     
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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    >>>>^^What it is saying ... and not so tacitly either ... is that 'we know the HUGE 30-minute wait you may have to endure on our busy days for one of our masterpieces is too much for one to bear, so here's something for you to play with while you are waiting' ... seriously, so many folks today could never have lived in the 70s or 80s let alone further back.

    Constant stimulation.<<<

    OK, that's the negative side of it.


    The OPTIMISITC [ ;-) ] side if it sees it as a new detail, and extension of the Storyline, and some cool tech.

    I think it balances out in that respect.


    Could be worse, too.

    Enough, though.... Craig Ferguson is starting. :D
     
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    Originally Posted By HMButler79

    Spirit, WDI, by TDOs orders, HAS coddled and babied the guests for a decade starting with FP. Because WDW are ummmm "special". How ELSE do you explain that we are the ONLY MK in the WORLD that is going to have TWO Dumbos with a an interacticve "queue"? There is no reason for it. Your saying Dumbo isn't as popular at the other 3?? TDO simply wants a pacifier in the guests mouths 24/7.
     
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    Originally Posted By HMButler79

    And about the 180 waitimes at Six Flags over Epcot. We went two weeks ago. The beginning of Grad Night. Test Track was at 120min and Mission Space was at a whopping............TWENTY MIN. WDI sure hit THAT one outta the park.
     
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    Originally Posted By HMButler79

    Spirit, id also like to add the THE most famous example of TDO babying guests and thier ADHHD kids is when they let them "Imagineer" Fututre World. I've never seen such disatrous results in a Disney theme park because by having guest surveys.
     
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    Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

    << Mission Space was at a whopping............TWENTY MIN. WDI sure hit THAT one outta the park.>>

    Mission Space is awesome.
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf

    No it is not.

    M:S was a spoogefest by WDI to their technology cravings and the utmost proof Engineers shouldn't be allowed to make creative decisions.

    That aside - the asian noodle place doesn't sell food and people want chicken fingers because he asian noodles they have suck and taste horrible. There are not the same complaints at the Epcot restaurants that sell asian food, or german, or french, or anything that is not burgers or chicken fingers. You can't even get a burger at Sunshine Season and it makes more money then every other place on property.

    It's the crap quality and they refuse to admit it.

    This post brought to you by "The Society for Merf is Right: You should listen!"
     
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    Originally Posted By HokieSkipper

    <<No it is not.

    M:S was a spoogefest by WDI to their technology cravings and the utmost proof Engineers shouldn't be allowed to make creative decisions>>

    Cry about it merfie. It's an awesome ride. Stop cuddling your Horizons throw pillow at night.

    And you do realize WDI had absolutely nothing to do with the engineering in that ride, right?
     
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    Originally Posted By mousermerf


    Wow, you couldn't be more wrong. Do I need to go dig up the videos simulations from WDI of the passenger compartment configurations they considered and possible loading patterns?
     

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