Originally Posted By -em >>I'm starting to expect these kind of moves from WDW. Very sad indeed.<< sigh agreed
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Yep, maybe you guys can see my bitterness. WDW, Paris, a little bit in California, it is soooooo depressing. Doesn't make me want to fly across the world and part with serious money. Yet the Disney of 20 years ago, I'd be there in a heartbeat. Instead they are offering UKers $1500 worth of gift vouchers to go, and it's still not enough. I like Macy's or Nordstroms, not Walmart.
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Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer And now they have the audacity to mention it on Twitter and that's it. They sink to new lows everyday.
Originally Posted By -em >>-outdated technology<< that excuse is simply laughable. Especially with Osbourne (and most likely the castle) using very similar if not the same technology... LEDs are cheap and long lasting and the technology is so basic its depressing... -em
Originally Posted By leobloom So funny that my comment was ADMIN'd here but not at the MAGICAL pixie-snorting HQ. Here's what I said, with the oh-so-offensive term XX'd out: My family noticed last year that the Xmas decorations were not as plentiful as they had been in years past. We'll be going again this year, and I'm sure without the LoW, it'll look even less festive. This is a perfect example of why I no longer have an AP. I would feel completely gyped paying for Disney today. If the quality was even the WDW of 10 years ago, I and my family probably would be passholders. The official excuse---outdated technology---is such an insult, if there was ever a time to boycott these pompous XXXXXs, it'd be now!
Originally Posted By tonyanton Does it really cost them THAT much to put this up and run the electricity? I'm not a WDW apologist, but I don't nitpick either, but this just screams cheap!
Originally Posted By Spyderman At WDW, the whole fun is speculating what Disney will get rid of next!(or replace with a mediocre cartoon tie-in ala stitch)
Originally Posted By Mr F What do you expect from cheap ghetto Walt Disney world, one of the most poorly mismanaged and unkept Disney resorts on the planet. It's sad that Tokyo Disney, a DISNEY resort which Disney does not own, is managed much better than a resort which disney DOES own.
Originally Posted By danyoung I agree with your 2nd sentence above, Mr F, not the first. Although they need to improve their management skills, WDW is by no means a cheap ghetto. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many people who are still so passionate about it.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORGOCH: You'll be cryin' soon 'nuff, ducklin'. Walt Dizzy Whirl might not be a ghetto YET! But if'n they keeps goin' the way that has, it soon will be.
Originally Posted By bayrr326 BTW, while WDW has ditched LOW and Mickey's Night before Christmas. SeaWorld is adding 3 new holiday shows this year. An Ice show, a christmast sea lion show(which I am sure will be really funny just like there other shows) and a sesame street christmas show. So not everyone is cutting back even when there attendance is down.
Originally Posted By figment1986 I will miss the experience, it provided something nice in the evening and nights while waiting for illuminations. What I don't get, why can studios feature a whole light extravaganza while Epcot looses a smaller scale... was it cause they could not upgrade the tech or they didn't bother?
Originally Posted By sjhym33 I mentioned to a friend in mgmt that the boards across the internet were angry about the loss of LOW at EPCOT. His response to me was: "They just need to get over it. Its not like anyone will cancel their vacation over it." That statement has haunted me the past several days not just because of the sentiment but also because of the truth of it. Kevin Yee continually discusses Decline by Degress. First they cut this then when no one really complains and the bottom line isnt really effective it gives them the confidence to do it over and over again. I think after spending much of my adult life being a Disney theme park freak...I moved my family to FL in the 80's to work for Disney...I am ready to say no more Disney for me. That is sad in some ways. My office is full of Disney memorabilia from my career and travels, my ipod has over 100 tracks of Disney theme park music, most of our family group pictures have been taken at Disney. But I think I am finally done. Its not just the LOW of course, though it was the final thing for me because it was one of favorite Christmas things at Disney ever. It is all the little Declines by Degrees that has finally jelled for me to say "My Disney doesnt exist anymore." Any hopes that Disney will return to something like it was are gone for me. Iger continues the neutering of Imagination that Eisner started. A friend in Imagineering tells me he is concerned that he wont have a job long since Imagineering has become less a creative department and more a delivery group beholden to several other more powerful departments. A whole bunch of you will continue to say things like "I agree, but..." and thats great. To each his own. But I wont be spending another dime at Disney. I will continue to have great memories from the NY Worlds Fair and my first Disney attractions to the years I worked for the men who worked with Walt to many, many fun times with my family. But Disney has just become another theme park for me. A chapter in my life that is done. Peace.
Originally Posted By leobloom >>I am ready to say no more Disney for me. That is sad in some ways. My office is full of Disney memorabilia from my career and travels, my ipod has over 100 tracks of Disney theme park music, most of our family group pictures have been taken at Disney. But I think I am finally done. Its not just the LOW of course, though it was the final thing for me because it was one of favorite Christmas things at Disney ever. It is all the little Declines by Degrees that has finally jelled for me to say "My Disney doesnt exist anymore." Any hopes that Disney will return to something like it was are gone for me.>> I sympathize with you. My family's done something very similar. Before we moved to Florida, we took multiple trips to WDW and DL each year. I suppose sometime around 2000, we stopped. Now that we live in Florida, we go maybe once a year IF we get free tickets. I'm not about to buy an AP, nor pay the ridiculous prices they ask for day-tickets. But you know what? After we stopped going to Disney, we started to travel (not really the same as "vacation"), and I gotta say, I think I have better memories of those travels than all the trips we took to WDW when I was growing up. Places like Alaska, the American Southwest, the Florida Keys...we still enjoy the parks if/when we go, but there's a whole world out there apart from Disney, and for my money it's even more awe-inspiring and impressive. (No Disney mountain could ever compare to the mountains in Alaska!)
Originally Posted By -em >>His response to me was: "They just need to get over it. Its not like anyone will cancel their vacation over it."<< sigh- last night I was at the Mk and while I was waiting for the castle lights the party next to me was complaining about the removal of Twas from the MVMCP and how upset they were about it- Yet they all had wristbands for that nights event. If you are that upset SPEAK WITH YOUR WALLET. I have not attended MVMCP as a guest since 2006 and plan to keep it that way. Will I still hit Epcot this christmas- Yes but also since I get in free its not truly the same. But I do speak with my wallet with my grand total of $$ spent at WDW since June- 40 bucks. With most being one night at F & W... It used to be 100 a month. I will spend more money at DLR in one week than I have at WDW in 6 months and thats even with the discounts... Course it would be more if it wasn't the same merchandise.. >>It is all the little Declines by Degrees that has finally jelled for me to say "My Disney doesnt exist anymore." << I like it and will have to borrow it on occasion because it is so true. -em
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>I mentioned to a friend in mgmt that the boards across the internet were angry about the loss of LOW at EPCOT. His response to me was: "They just need to get over it. Its not like anyone will cancel their vacation over it." That statement has haunted me the past several days not just because of the sentiment but also because of the truth of it. Kevin Yee continually discusses Decline by Degress. First they cut this then when no one really complains and the bottom line isnt really effective it gives them the confidence to do it over and over again. I think after spending much of my adult life being a Disney theme park freak...I moved my family to FL in the 80's to work for Disney...I am ready to say no more Disney for me. That is sad in some ways. My office is full of Disney memorabilia from my career and travels, my ipod has over 100 tracks of Disney theme park music, most of our family group pictures have been taken at Disney. But I think I am finally done. Its not just the LOW of course, though it was the final thing for me because it was one of favorite Christmas things at Disney ever. It is all the little Declines by Degrees that has finally jelled for me to say "My Disney doesnt exist anymore." Any hopes that Disney will return to something like it was are gone for me. Iger continues the neutering of Imagination that Eisner started. A friend in Imagineering tells me he is concerned that he wont have a job long since Imagineering has become less a creative department and more a delivery group beholden to several other more powerful departments. A whole bunch of you will continue to say things like "I agree, but..." and thats great. To each his own. But I wont be spending another dime at Disney. I will continue to have great memories from the NY Worlds Fair and my first Disney attractions to the years I worked for the men who worked with Walt to many, many fun times with my family. But Disney has just become another theme park for me. A chapter in my life that is done. Peace.<<< Interesting post...Much of it is the same for me. As for canceling vacations, people won't do that, but they are canceling ADRs, packages, and other things. I know the CP is taking some hits. ...and that's good. Hopefully they see this. As for the rest of your post, yeah, we did the same from 2001-2007. Went to NYC, up the East Coast, Grand Canyon, Vegas, enjoyed it IMMENSELY. that's real magic.
