Originally Posted By Dabob2 Hey, it's like applying "truthiness" to the constitution! Awesome! If it "feels" legal, it must be. Sorry, DD, that's not a standard we should accept, and I doubt that you would accept from a Democratic president.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <In the corporate welfare thread, you made flat assertions that were not presented as opinion.> They were as much presented as opinion as dshyates were, and they were clarified as opinion repeatedly, and yet I was repeatedly told I had to "prove" something different than what I said. <Dsyhates' posts and backup are more believable than your post without backup.> Thanks for proving my point. Posts containing liberal ideology are more widely accepted than those containing conservative ones. It's a clear double standard.
Originally Posted By dshyates Bush also "felt" waterboarding was legal too. Even though we prosecuted the Japanese in the Tokyo War Crimes Trials for waterboarding in 1942. Obviously not a student of history.
Originally Posted By inlandemporer "They were as much presented as opinion as dshyates were, and they were clarified as opinion repeatedly, and yet I was repeatedly told I had to "prove" something different than what I said. " Covered that in the other thread. You were asked to prove exactly what you said. They were not presented as opinion originally, and you were asked to prove your assertion. THEN you tried to say it was just opinion. Don't think we don't see through you. "Dsyhates' posts and backup are more believable than your post without backup." "Thanks for proving my point. Posts containing liberal ideology are more widely accepted than those containing conservative ones. It's a clear double standard." I'm a moderate, Bub. I voted for Bush in 2000. He turned out to be the worst president of my lifetime, and I'm pushing 50. But I've voted for more Republicans than Democrats in my lifetime, and my worldview is probably closer to yours than dshyates'. So don't presume, Bub. The crucial difference, which I put in there and you even freaking reprinted (!), was that dshyates backed up his post and you didn't. That's not a double standard.
Originally Posted By dshyates The last republican presidential candidate I voted for was Reagan's first term. I have voted Dem since (for prez.). I vote Rep. on a local and state level.
Originally Posted By inlandemporer Sorry, dshyates, I see you vote for both Rep. and Dem. too. From your posts, I assumed you were a staunch Democrat, but I can see how talking about Bush would make anyone look like one. He really has done a lot of damage. My daughter is now voting age and came of age with Bush and DeLay and Cheney and Lott and she wants to know how her mother and I could ever have voted for Republicans ever. I tried to explain they aren't all that bad!
Originally Posted By dshyates See, I don't like republicans all that much, but I don't consider Bush and gang, Republicans. I think they flat out lied to the conservative base to get their votes to get into office. And then went to work for Haliburton and Exxon. I don't like Democrats all that much, I just think they are there to stop the Republicans from running amok.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You were asked to prove exactly what you said.> No, I wasn't, and endless assertions to the contrary aren't going to prove I did. <I'm a moderate, Bub.> And yet you always agree with the liberals here, and never with any conservatives. <dshyates backed up his post and you didn't> Well, no, but I understand why you think so, since you're such a moderate.
Originally Posted By inlandemporer <You were asked to prove exactly what you said.> "No, I wasn't, and endless assertions to the contrary aren't going to prove I did." You can deny reality until the cows come home, but you were quoted exactly, and the rest of it is there for anyone to see. <I'm a moderate, Bub.> "And yet you always agree with the liberals here, and never with any conservatives." I don't hang out here that much, and it's likely I haven't posted on topics where my opinions would be more to your liking. But on Bush? Yeah, on him I'll agree with the liberals here. And the moderates here. And some of the Republicans here. You know, the 70-75% of the public who knows he's a terrible president. As with my jumping to a conclusion on dshyates, which at least I admitted, if all you're looking at is an opinion of Bush, it would be easy for a moderate to look liberal. <dshyates backed up his post and you didn't> "Well, no, but I understand why you think so, since you're such a moderate." Simple fact. dshyates posted his opinion, and links to articles that illustrated his points, one on Comey and another on the Qwest CEO. All you posted was your opinion, but nothing to back it up.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I'd just like to throw out there for any body who cares that I was in the Denver airport on Sunday and they were making announcements about every 5-10 minutes that the threat level had been elevated from yellow to orange and keep an eye out. The system is still used, and people still pay attention, wheter it fits into some political agenda or not.
Originally Posted By inlandemporer Douglas, what are you, 14? I know teenagers are allowed on LP, so maybe you even are a teenager, in which case it's kind of not your fault. But if you're an adult, you're not acting like one. It's all "I know you are, but what am I?" and "I could prove my point but I don't feel like it." If you really are a teenager, then I'm sorry. Both in general, and for your parents!
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh I'm responding to you. If you want to have an adult conversation, stop with the insults and distortions.
Originally Posted By inlandemporer And we just get more "I know you are, but what am I." I swear, it's hard to read your posts and not hear Pee Wee Herman's voice. I've just read through several threads, and you engage in this sort of thing with just about everybody, then claim to be the victim. Meanwhile, other people have intelligent, on-topic conversations with others as long as you don't interject. Dabob2 and jonvn are right; you are the common denominator in everything that gets derailed and down to the sandbox level.
