Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Hey, you guys can praise the joint all you want, but you will never see the inside of it." I'll still manage to enjoy my time at the park. Seeing the inside of Club 33 isn't exactly on my bucket list. Never given it a 2nd thought while at the park.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>Hey, you guys can praise the joint all you want, but you will never see the inside of it.<< I had a meal in Club 33 a few years ago, before anybody was talking about the redo. A huge part of the appeal to me was the history of place and the direct links to the past. The redone club looks lovely, but like any vaguely-themed hotel bar/restaurant in the country; the links to the past are still there, but it just doesn't hold the mystique. Even if I'd enjoy myself, I don't particularly feel like I need to see the inside of it I agree that the redo didn't leave an ideal NOS behind (at least from the photos I've seen), but being able to see inside the windows doesn't bother me too much. It's more that the windows are completely out of scale, there are extraneous 2nd story overhangs everywhere, and a ridiculous number of overhead bridges. I don't care what goes on inside the club or how big or visible it is if you know where to look, but it seems like they could have done a much better job applying the architectural style to the outside. It's like they used decorators instead of architects to design it
Originally Posted By Tikiduck Boy, and some people here think I have anger issues. I think I have stated my case adequately. Now if you will excuse me, I am going over to the jealous nobody's who drive Fords website.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros As far as I can tell, nobody here is angry. Just expressing our points of view which don't always align with one another's, and there's nothing wrong with that
Originally Posted By patrickegan If I wanted to see crap architecture I could go to a strip mall or subdivision. Boo, bad show.
Originally Posted By Moon Waffle Haven't seen it in person yet, but the photos sure do suggest they botched this one good. Especially the overhead bridge...that just looks awful.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Man, you're bitter. What do you do when you have to walk through first class on a plane? Or when you have to look up at the luxury boxes at Staples Center from the cheap seats? Or when a Bentley passes your Ford? Instead of complaining about people who have wealth and enjoy it any way they want, you should be aspiring to join them." -smd4 "I don't want the public to see the world they live in while they're in the Park (Disneyland). I want to feel they're in another world." -Walt Disney
Originally Posted By believe I think the point is, if you are "THE ONE PERCENT", instead of whining and complaining, and wishful thinking, you would actually have the power to do something. You could be the president of DL and just say "no", we're not going to do the NOS changes.
Originally Posted By smd4 Don't want to see the outside world, eh? You were probably leading the charge to get Starbucks in the Market House.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt If you're supposed to be in another world while at Disneyland then why base a land off of a real place (New Orleans) at all? In the rush to lambaste people are forgetting that NOS has never been an accurate recreation of The French Quarter. Furthermore, even with the mediocre details and awkward re-positioning of some second floor spaces to accommodate Club 33's expansion, the recent changes are from the worst aesthetic changes that the park has ever seen. DL has bigger challenges to address than an offset window that the average guest won't even notice.
Originally Posted By monorailblue Speaking of Disney park horribles, at least we never had the Birthday Cake Castle or Mikey Wand that WDW had to suffer through . . . .
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt But we did have this: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.yesterland.com/images-fantasyland/afternoon2_cb.jpg">http://www.yesterland.com/imag...2_cb.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By Dabob2 SPP's point, to me, has nothing to do with the aesthetic changes, but is about how there was always (since '67, anyway) this place in DL that only the wealthy could access and the hoi polloi could not... but it was discreet. Now it's "in your face," or at least much more obviously so than before. Having not seen it in person I can't say how much more "in your face" it seems to me, but that was the point, I think.
Originally Posted By smd4 I agree it is in your face--one of many absolutely attrocious design blunders featured in Bridge-Orleans Square. My post, however, which SPP quoted, only addressed another member's adolecent jealousy over not being allowed into Club 33. Not the visibility of the new club (I guess it's OK to see "rich people" when they're standing next to you in line for Splash, but when said rich people are seen at an exclusive club, the "real world" intrudes?).
Originally Posted By Dabob2 But you and those people in line are in the same line. You and they have access to the exact same thing in the exact same way. Why the new more visible C33 bothers some is that some people have access and some don't, and being visible kind of (to some) rubs your nose in that fact. Again, I haven't seen it so I don't know how it would hit me, but I get what they're saying.
Originally Posted By smd4 Ironically, I bet some of the people claiming to have their noses rubbed in the more-visible Club 33 are also on the waiting list...
