Originally Posted By hopemax Appalling or not, it's a reality that Disneyland has to operate under. Those "new business landscapes" that people like to throw around so much. Today's customers are selfish, entitled and prone to tantrums when they can't get or do something. So I do question why DL would want to "emphasize" something that most people can't do.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "So I do question why DL would want to "emphasize" something that most people can't do." And "most people" can't afford to spend a night with their family at the Grand Californian. So? Why is a private club that Walt Disney personally created over 40 years ago, which is now open to the public, suddenly offensive to so many fans? It makes no sense to me at all.
Originally Posted By berol People have been offended for 10 years or more. There are lots of things at Disneyland that cost extra to do, but this is the only one that people complain about. It's so phenomenally overpriced that I don't get the complaints, either.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Just curious: how has admission changed to C33? I know in the early years it really was just corporate sponsors. More recently a sponsor could essentially get someone in with a day pass, which got you in, and then you had to buy a meal. So how does it work now? Is it more "open to the public" than previously?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Yes, anyone can apply for a membership, which includes access to 1901, yet another exclusive club inside the Carthay Circle at DCA.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://eater.com/archives/2013/01/28/inside-club-33-disneylands-exclusive-10000-per-year-restaurant.php">http://eater.com/archives/2013...rant.php</a>
Originally Posted By Tikiduck Walt did the corporate thing to shmooze executives into helping fund further attractions and expansion to the park. Now that Disney is one of the most powerful corporations on the planet, that is no longer necessary. So what we have now are obvious examples of wealth exclusivity smack dab in the middle of both parks. Rich people just have this need to separate themselves from the rest of us, so they can escape the crowds, sip a martini and savor their financial superiority. I thought Disneyland was for everyone, but that is not the case.
Originally Posted By smd4 >>>Rich people just have this need to separate themselves from the rest of us, so they can escape the crowds, sip a martini and savor their financial superiority.<<< Sounds good to me. Man, you're bitter. What do you do when you have to walk through first class on a plane? Or when you have to look up at the luxury boxes at Staples Center from the cheap seats? Or when a Bentley passes your Ford? Instead of complaining about people who have wealth and enjoy it any way they want, you should be aspiring to join them.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "So what we have now are obvious examples of wealth exclusivity smack dab in the middle of both parks." What's the difference from before? Under both scenaios the club membership was exclusively for well-heeled guests. Would you have preferred for management shutter the place and let collect dust? Boy, Disney fans are impossible to comprehend.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Hey, the 'exclusive places' continued with EPCOT Center. All those Future World attractions had VIP Lounges attached to them. Very nice!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros ^^Even DL's 'new' Autopia that opened in 2000 included a corporate lounge for Chevron. It's on the ground floor of that teal tower building in the queue, where the dioramas are located. As far as I know, that's the most recent one to be built (since new attractions since then haven't really had sponsors), but I'm not sure about the foreign parks; I would assume there's at least one lounge somewhere in each park and WDSP and HKDL both opened after 2000 TDL also has its on version of Club 33 in the World Bazaar areas (their spin on Main Street). It is also on the 2nd floor with large windows, but due to the scale of the surrounding architecture it fits right in and is actually quite difficult to find. While actively searching for it, it took us about 20 minutes to find the entrance
Originally Posted By Tikiduck Hey, you guys can praise the joint all you want, but you will never see the inside of it. Strange, that people would admire a place they are excluded from. Oh well, at any rate, it was fun appalling you guys.
Originally Posted By berol I can't go into the private quarters of the White House, but I'm able to admire the decor without being all torn up about my access. It's not so much strange, but normal and well-adjusted.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Hey, you guys can praise the joint all you want, but you will never see the inside of it." Who cares. It's been there as long as I've been going to DL and I admit that I'd love to have a drink there, but I've never been angry or upset that I can't get in. Again, please tell us why this is suddenly an issue when it wasn't 20 years ago?
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Don't forget just because you're offended doesn't mean your right. - Ricky Gervais
Originally Posted By smd4 >>>Hey, you guys can praise the joint all you want, but you will never see the inside of it. Strange, that people would admire a place they are excluded from.<<< Go occupy C33, 99 percenter. Continue your strive for Mediocrity I can get in any time I want. Why are you "excluded?" Attitude, probably. I wouldn't want you in either.
