Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Answer the questions- Address the issue directly- do you not see the irony here between the 4th amendment concerns previously raised and now? What's the difference between the concerns about Consitutional rights? One is not worth more than the other.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I haven't endorsed his view, merely said it's got some merit. >>> So would you agree that many of the civil liberties arguments against the Patriot Act have some merit?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Answer the questions-> Why should I? I'm not an advocate for the NRA. If you want to disagree with the NRA's position, then feel free. I'm not stopping you.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <So would you agree that many of the civil liberties arguments against the Patriot Act have some merit?> Sure.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Which points about the bill that the NRA mentioned in the letter do you think are good points?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder He's gonna hedge and stutter and try to derail the topic because the irony and hypocrisy here are too much to overcome. Don't bother.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Which points about the bill that the NRA mentioned in the letter do you think are good points?> Mostly the ones in the middle of the letter, where he gives specific examples of why there is a difference between this bill and other restrictions due to the terrorist watch list.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad <<<But take away their guns, and oh boy, the NRA gets their panties in a wad.>>> I thought you said in another thread that you were NOT in favor of a complete ban on guns. I guess the truth comes out eventually. jk
Originally Posted By DVC_dad <<< ("I'm a member, take that!") >>> No that's not my opinion. I'm a republican too, but there are some issues that I feel differently on that differ from the offical party stance. I'm not so blind, ignorant, and simple minded to simply agree across the board with ANY organization, even my church, as to simply follow blindly and not think for myself. Anyway, it isn't NRA members that go out and shoot up the local fast food joint or worse.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad It's not the NRA that you should blame for the situation in the country. Lay the blame where it belongs...with the supreme court. Oh? No one has anything to say about that huh?
Originally Posted By DVC_dad ^ ^ ^ Post 30 meant only to relate to the current status of how the 2nd Amendment is interpreted, which gives us the right to own hand guns as private citizens. I can't see that changing, not now, not ever.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://www.worldpolicy.org/globalrights/usa/2ndamend.html" target="_blank">http://www.worldpolicy.org/glo balrights/usa/2ndamend.html</a> From the link: "...its original purpose—to establish a "well-regulated" democratic army of citizen-soldiers instead of a professional army; not to encourage the anarchic proliferation of weapons in civil society." Exactly.
