Originally Posted By Labuda And they're absolutely right. Amazing to me that they have that outlook AND are anti-abortion. Wow.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "But I just looked him up on Wiki, and gotta say that him being pro-death penalty doesn't surprise me one bit" Ron Paul is against the death penalty. Even the Wikipedia page you apparently looked up says it in plain English.
Originally Posted By Labuda Ok, yep, I re-read it. But one page I looked at stressed only that he opposes it on the federal level, but said that he, at that time, felt it should be up to the states. Based on what I'm seeing now that may be an old statement made prior to 2008 when he said that he opposes it due tot he mistakes. I, OTOH, oppose it because I'm not God and I don't get to see if other people live or die. Defense lawyers would love me on a capital punishment case.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "I, OTOH, oppose it because I'm not God and I don't get to see if other people live or die." You aren't God so you can't judge a man and send him to death (well, not you but a jury), but you are God-enough to terminate a fetus? I'm pro-choice and anti-death penalty as well, but not because of some moral hangup, but because of verifiable mistakes. I feel perfectly fine sending a man to death with a confession and a video tape. But then again, I'm wondering about the possible mistakes being made in regard to abortion too. In any case, they're both homicide, no doubt, but justifiable under the right circumstances.
Originally Posted By Labuda "I feel perfectly fine sending a man to death with a confession and a video tape." And that's where we part. I don't think two wrongs make a right. Lock 'em up forever, sure. Don't kill 'em.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Then why does "two wrongs don't make a right" apply to abortion? I feel the two wrongs (illegitimate pregnancy and killing a fetus) makes a right (society won't have to inevitably support the unwanted child).
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Rather, Then why does "two wrongs don't make a right" NOT apply to abortion?
Originally Posted By Labuda I don't believe I said it applies to abortion. Thanks for putting words in my mouth, though. When I said two wrongs don't make a right, I was talking about killing an adult. Sorry if I have to spell out for you that right after I say two wrongs don't make a right followed by lock them up forever, I'm not talking about fetuses, but instead actual human beings who have been on this earth 18 or more years - however old you have to be in order to be subjected to state-sponsored murder.
Originally Posted By barboy ///Defense lawyers would love me on a capital punishment case/// I seriously doubt that you'd make it that far...........one has to be death penalty qualified. But then again if given the opportunity you could always lie(harbor a secret agenda) to get on a jury and then do your 'thang' come deliberation time.
Originally Posted By Labuda Not a chance. I know the only way I'd get on a jury for capital punishment would be if the moon & stars aligned and the state's attorney could for some reason NOT have me removed as a juror. I'm not about to lie to get on a jury.
