Originally Posted By mawnck >>This cartoon sums it up perfectly: <a href="http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2009/08/18/tomo/" target="_blank">http://www.salon.com/comics/to...18/tomo/</a> << Yep.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan One thing that Mr. Obama will discover is that there really isn't anything bipartisan these days. The vast majority of GOP members will vote against any sort of health care reform, so continuing to water it down doesn't win a single GOP vote. I think he's trying his level best to be reasonable -- and you see what he gets in return. Reasonable unfortunately isn't how Washington works, so it's time to use the majority they have won, get this thing done, and let the chips fall where they may.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***That doesn't mean any government programs that claims to offer aid should be supported.*** Of course, and that's why we should abolish medicare and social security immediately. ***"Ah, Hans. What can I say to you, you already think I'm incapable of thinking independently." Yes, and with good reason. Your arguments do nothing to convince me otherwise. And with your personal insults and a "holier than thou" attitude equal to or greater than mine, I'm not going to have a conversation with you.*** Save the shunning for your next Church meeting, won't you? It's nothing but an infantile tantrum out here in the real world, nobody buys it.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I think he's trying his level best to be reasonable -- and you see what he gets in return.<< Uh huh. In my heart of hearts I keep hoping that the intractability of the GOP is just for show, and things are getting done behind the scenes ... ... but in my brain of brains, I don't think that's the case. Seems to me that if he caved to every one of the GOP's most strident and idiotic demands, they'd still make up reasons to oppose "his" plan. So why bother caving to anything?
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