Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Don't really understand the point you're trying to make, if any." You're being obtuse. The point been made twice already: The appearance of the POTUS at the Magic Kingdom is a win for Disney. "I knew Obama could fix WDW, just like he fixed the Gulf." LOL.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<The appearance of the POTUS at the Magic Kingdom is a win for Disney.>> I never said it wasn't good for Disney.
Originally Posted By SeventyOne Not to be that guy, but need to stress...not all Brazilians who come to WDW are teenagers in tour groups with matching yellow T-shirts. All those kids have parents and older siblings. As Europe basically collapses (not trying to be political, but can't think of a less charged term), the industry is looking to Brazil to be the next big feeder for Orlando. That said...yeah, the tour groups can be annoying as all get-out. Just like Pop Warner and the cheerleaders. Any group of kids that age of any culture, bound to be issues.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper I've had the opportunity to never be there during Pop Warner. But it's pretty easy to avoid them. The Tour Groups are always there.
Originally Posted By standor During my last visit I had a lot of trouble putting up with the Brazilians. My wife, son and I were standing by a rail waiting for the parade to start in the magic kingdom. When the parade was about to start these people pushed us away and took our spots along the rail. My wife and I were in our late 70s. We had to go back and could hardly see the parade. Later on in the day, we were taking pictures and the same people got in the way and ruined our pictures. I told a cast member but he couldn't care less. They are the rudest people that I have met in WDW.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I told a cast member but he couldn't care less.>> Unfortunately even if he did care, he couldn't do anything. CMs are basically powerless against them.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt <<The appearance of the POTUS at the Magic Kingdom is a win for Disney.>> "I never said it wasn't good for Disney." Not those words exactly, but you did imply just that when you stated "It's not a coup at all" several posts back. Can we assume by your response in #42 above that you finally grasp the point, or was that another sly attempt to avoid giving a straight answer?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Not those words exactly, but you did imply just that when you stated "It's not a coup at all" several posts back.>> It's not a "coup". Coup implies they pried him away from another company or place. I've gotten the point from the very minute I started the thread. You've just been dedicated to being an ass since your first reply, like usual.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Foreign visitors have kept Disney afloat over the past 3-4 years. I'm not sure they deserve criticism. And, for what it is worth, in regards to Americans travelling abroad the term "Ugly American" is well deserved from my experiences.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Foreign visitors have kept Disney afloat over the past 3-4 years. I'm not sure they deserve criticism.>> Sure it does. No matter who they are, American or foreign, if they're rude, they should be punished. <<And, for what it is worth, in regards to Americans travelling abroad the term "Ugly American" is well deserved from my experiences.>> So that excuses other people's behaviour? That's a cop out. If you're rude and ruining other people's times, you deserve to be reprimanded for it.
Originally Posted By PotNoodle Feijoada for everyone! I am surprised they are not doing more attract the Chinese to WDW. They go overseas to shop. I saw a segment on World Focus where the Chinese go on shopping tours to places like the UK, where they load up on Burberry items and Clarks shoes (which are made in China). Of course, I don't know if they'd want to spend their money on the crap that "Disney Parks" sells.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^China will be another focus of this refrom, from what the media is saying.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "It's not a "coup". Coup implies they pried him away from another company or place." You might want to take a moment and consult an online dictionary on the meaning of "coup" in the context of my post. "You've just been dedicated to being an ass since your first reply, like usual." Here we go with the uncivil personal attacks. I guess it takes an ass to know one, since you were the one who started the argument with your virtual eye rolling. It's time for me to leave this discussion.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper So Hokie, all Brazilian groups are rude and ruining your experience at WDW?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I've only had one experince with a Brazilian group, and I thought it was a lot of fun. It was last week (it seems like my vacation was a lot longer ago than that!) on Star Tours, my party of 3 ended up in a cabin that was almost entirely Brazilians. From what I could tell, they were all traveling in groups of about 5-10, and didn't appear to know the other groups, but all spoke Portugese. There was some confusion getting assigned seating rows, but after that, everything was fine and dandy. And while the attraction was nothing particularly memorable (I'm not a huge fan of the new version), their reactions to it made it a lot of fun. Lot of excitement and reactions to the stuff on the screen. I guess I could see how some of their stuff could get old after a while (and I didn't experience any chanting at all), but my experience with that specific group was great, and it really made my day more fun and memorable. As for Obama's trip, I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Michelle has done a ton of really well-done healthy lifestyle PSA's on Disney Channel (they're my favorite thing about this Administration), so it seems like such a logical connection. I know she's been to WDW with the girls at least once in the past couple years, but the partnership just seems really obvious to me. Not sure what will actually be announced though.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "<<it's huge PR coup for Disney.>> Not really. They partially bankrolled his campaign. It's not a coup at all." Uuuummmmm............is this REALLY going to go un-admin'ed? Doobie? Really?!?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<So Hokie, all Brazilian groups are rude and ruining your experience at WDW?>> The vast majority I've run into while working or as a guest have been rude and inconsiderate, yes.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: I recall waiting to watch Fantasmic a while back with my sisters when the Brazilian group of girls nearby began to chant. It was loud and obnoxious. A cast member came over to them and asked them to stop chanting. They did for a while. But after the cast member left they started up again. The cast member returned and told them they were bothering other guests with their chanting. This time the girls did cease and desist. We all heaved a sigh of relief...
Originally Posted By maniac_disney As a brazilian journalist and Disney fan and long time contribuitor of LaughingPlace I could tell you that I do have problem with the brazilian tour groups chanting and pushing and so on. It´s important to say most issues came from the lack of supervision. Most group are teenagers without their parents or relatives. But the brazilian family (parents and kids only) it´s like any other family group (american or foreign). I don´t know but in the 80´s and 90´s the old brazilian tour agencies did have a kind of lecture for the tourism groups before the trip. But since most of them went bankrupt after 9/11 attacks Brazil lost their best and traditional agencies formed with the traditional Disney values. At that time Disney did have a team dedicated to the theme parks and resorts at our Disney offices in São Paulo.
