Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie I know. I wasn't thinking straight. It must have been the fear of the Kenyan Nazi Death squads.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I bet Zoltare would have known about these death panels and could have forewarned us.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Darkbeer... since you trust Wiki accuracy enough to quote it: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...pectancy</a> GLOBAL LIFE EXPECTANCY INDEX Where is the US on the index, DB? United States ranks 45th in the world. Our country ranks lower than: Japan France Switzerland Sweden Australia Iceland CANADA Italy Spain Norway Israel Greece Austria Netherlands South Korea Germany and the UNITED KINGDOM The US ranks lower than these and other countries in life expectancy. Yet we are currently the NUMBER ONE nation in GDP as measured by the IMF, the World Bank, and the CIA World Factbook: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...s_by_GDP</a>_(nominal) We are the richest nation on the planet. Hands down. Without a doubt. Wealth beyond belief. But... we rank 45th in the world for life expectancy. Lower than CANADA and the UK, countries you claim have badly managed socialized medicine. Canadians and Brits live longer than Americans. FACT. You cannot deny this FACT no matter how many stats you keeping citing. Our health care system is BROKEN. We need to fix it. NOW. So take your incomplete misrepresented statistics and conservative cheerleading and stick 'em where pediatricians used to measure body temperature.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan <a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-10-2009/healther-skelter---obama-death-panel-debate" target="_blank">http://www.thedailyshow.com/wa...l-debate</a>
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie Well, while you guys are running around all scared of Shaka Zulu Death Squads, I have a REAL problem. My father just sent me a friend request on Facebook!!!!
Originally Posted By Mr X Noooooooooooooooooooooo! Minnie, quick; delete ALL traces of your Facebook persona, and reorganize under MySpace for now. Hurry!
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie LP is now my last remaining sanctuary. Maybe I should add my name to the death panal list.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Don't expect DB to respond unless he can come up with another weak link.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer I just sent him an anonymous tip that there is some faded paint on the back of one of the trash cans in Toontown. He won't be back for a day or two.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 Was listening to NPR this morning, and they had clips from Senator Cardin's town hall meeting, and I couldn't believe how upset and rude these people were. No matter what the senator said, he got booed by the audience. I mean, things that would normally make Republicans happy got booed. Obviously, these people weren’t there to listen, and just wanted to express their discontent with the current government. What I find so scary in all of this is how little trust these people seem to have for the current government, and how afraid they are of it. I mean, we went 8 years with Bush and Cheney; all these people weren’t scared then when the administration was basically tearing a hole in the constitution? Why didn’t these people get worked up over things like the Patriot Act, or the Iraq war? Why is health care reform suddenly the issue that gets them into the streets? Is this just the fallout from the economic crisis and people are showing their anger? Or is this because the media has whipped these people into a frenzy with all their lies and misinformation? Or is it something else? Either way, this is definitely starting to get scary!
Originally Posted By mele What if worrying about all of this political garbage gives me an ulcer? Will the govt. call this a pre-existing condition and not allow me treatment?
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Or is it something else? Either way, this is definitely starting to get scary!<< I know this is impossible to quantify, and I know I'll get flamed by some people here, but I don't see how a big part of this isn't racism. I think a lot of these people (not all) are scared and upset and angry that a black man is their President. They're so incredibly ignorant that they believe he wasn't born in this country, and I'm sure many of them believe he's a Muslim. You're seeing what many of us predicted during the election come to fruition. The GOP and their commentators fanned the flames of hatred by saying he was "pallin' around with terrorists" and refusing to stand up and do the right thing. The exception, of course, was McCain, who got booed at his own rallies for it. Make no mistake: the birther movement, these screaming people with their anger, fear, and violence, is all linked. If Barack Obama's father had been a white British man named NIgel Collingsworth, I promise you there would be no birther movement and a lot less of this behavior. You're seeing the remnants of racism in the United States. They're a small minority, but they're a dangerous, scary, vocal minority.
Originally Posted By mele <<I know this is impossible to quantify, and I know I'll get flamed by some people here, but I don't see how a big part of this isn't racism.>> Yeah, I agree. There's just something about Obama that has made these people completely lose their...uh, "stuff" and I just don't believe it's because he's a Democrat. It's hard to say if it wouldn't happen to Hillary if she had also won because we already know their irrational hatred of the Clintons. I dunno...I don't think they believe they're racist but somewhere, deep down, the fact that Obama is black is driving them batty.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 Looks like Palin isn't backing down on this "Death Panel" thing: <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090813/pl_politico/26078" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/politi...co/26078</a> From the link: <<“Yesterday President Obama responded to my statement that Democratic health care proposals would lead to rationed care; that the sick, the elderly and the disabled would suffer the most under such rationing; and that under such a system, these ‘unproductive’ members of society could face the prospect of government bureaucrats determining whether they deserve health care,” Palin wrote in a note on her Facebook page. “The provision that President Obama refers to is Section 1233 of HR 3200, entitled ‘Advance Care Planning Consultation.’ With all due respect, it’s misleading for the president to describe this section as an entirely voluntary provision that simply increases the information offered to Medicare recipients,” she continued. “Section 1233 authorizes advanced care planning consultations for senior citizens on Medicare every five years, and more often ‘if there is a significant change in the health condition of the individual ... or upon admission to a skilled nursing facility, a long-term care facility... or a hospice program.’">> I have no idea where she's getting "Death Panel" out of these consultations - obviously she's just making sh*t up to scare her base of supporters into action. Sadly, it appears to be working.
