Originally Posted By vbdad55 Here we go again. I was around 3+ years ago and this 'Deion Sanders' act is old. Your defensive posturing tires us along with your endless stated self reassruance that you're a moderate, as if that makes you better than another. "I will spit out the lukewarm." (or something along those lines) --- is it true or not true barboy ? If it is not true - call me out on it-- if it is true- shuit the hell up- I am tired of your nonsense also. I am trying to make a point that we need to listen to each other because hwo knows- someone may have a point that is being misunderstood. Your point- is just you are rude and couldn't understand anyone else's point..making you irrelveant
Originally Posted By vbdad55 "It's looking increasingly likely that Perry will be the nominee - republicans have never wanted to vote for Romney (for a variety of reasons, some of them legit), and there aren't enough total whack jobs to give it Bachmann. " gadzuux-- you might be right on the fact that Obama can marginalize the tea party- one need only lookl at todays polls. While Perry leads Romney by 14 points head to head-- Perry loses to Obama by 5 points head to head while Romney is statistically dead even.. The GOP does not have anyone better ( in the race) right now-- I do not like Romney and would not consider Perry
Originally Posted By vbdad55 "Oh, and "yes"------ your political forecast/assessment of Obama was on the money with that whole Chicago corruption and Democratic stronghold thing." what position is Bill Daley in today- based on what qualifications - other than his brother agreed to turn over the mayors job to Rahm. Please have a clue before you speak.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^ also add Arne Duncan who ran one of the worst school districts in the country before manding the fed job - Rahm Emmanuel who gets 'escorted' into the mayor role here in Chicago as long as Daley steps down before the Feds investigate him-- bonus for his brother... --there'smore but I wouldn't waste it explaining anything more to you. He owes people here- just like anyone who is in politics in Illinois.. he's done a better job than most keeping the real hacks here in Illinois..lucky us
Originally Posted By vbdad55 based on the Perry vs Obama numbers today I still think Obama is going to get the majority of moderate and independent voters- to put him back in. There is no one else to draw votes away from him-- 'lost' voters from last election are likely people who become non-voters this time around-- not suddenly GOP voters. The GOP has an election being put out there for them to steal..however it shows just how much disarray it is in when the best 2 candidates are Romney and Perry. Neither going to win...and by election time are likely 10 points behind at best
Originally Posted By mawnck >>how does Obama look when he stakes out a vision and a claim that is unachievable?<< Presidential.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Bush actually got a surprising amount of mileage--even among independents-- with the whole "you may not always agree with me, but you always know where I stand" thing. I hate to say Obama should take ANY page out of Bush's book, but this one... maybe.
Originally Posted By gadzuux On Friday, Obama capitulated and ceded away regulations that sought to limit ground level ozone - better known as "smog" - mostly deriving from diesel exhaust from trucks and agriculture equipment. His stated reason? It's part of a "larger effort to reduce regulatory burdens and regulatory uncertainty" for U.S. businesses. Ripped straight out of the GOP talking points song book. His "real" reason? He doesn't want to be clubbed over the head by EPA hating GOP candidates for the next twelve months during the campaign. Like global warming and climate change, pollution is now a left/right issue, and once again, the republicans are on the wrong side of the issue. I mean - who's in favor of greater levels of air pollution? Hands anyone?
Originally Posted By leobloom Obama has proven, once and for all, that the only real choice voters have is no choice at all. Personally, I've been most disappointed with his environmental record. But I'm sure other supporters feel the same way about their key issues. I don't see any way that he gets re-elected at this point. I'm just hoping a moderate Republican gets elected, and not a Tea-Party favorite.
Originally Posted By leobloom Also anyone- you know who youare if you can- who has the patienc to read ----all of vbdad's polemics really deservies a medal of honor
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Just political - all promise and no substance.<< It would be a huge improvement over how he's going to look ... like "former President Obama."
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Also anyone- you know who youare if you can- who has the patienc to read ----all of vbdad's polemics really deservies a medal of honor --- part of the problem with society leo-- you have no patience to read what I wrote-- or other people... and we end up with an underinformed populace-- and then we vote in idiots.. but hey, no one forces you to read. Yet you expect people to read about toilets in WDW...really confusing. and btw-- I agree with you about a moderate GOP candidate- the issue is where are they ? I am surely looking for them
Originally Posted By vbdad55 and I don''t care if you agree with me or not, I sure as hell don't know everything, maybe I know nothing - but at least read what I wrote and form an opinion. Tell me where I am wrong- not like barboy, but like an intelligent reader. I go back to the same challenge I gave to barboy-- tell me where I was wrong on what would happen to Obama - based on exactly what I saw here when he was here. The difference being he can't vote here in his current job... still a very bright, ineffective leader. Same person
Originally Posted By leobloom >> part of the problem with society leo-- you have no patience to read what I wrote-- or other people... and we end up with an underinformed populace-- and then we vote in idiots.. << Vbdad, your thoughts would be much easier to read if you adhered somewhat to conventional grammar and mechanics. Not dashes and elipses and fragments all over the place. Reminds me of Harry Knowles' move reviews at Ain't It Cool. >> Yet you expect people to read about toilets in WDW...really confusing. << Yeah, really confusing. Satire might not be part of your vocabulary.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf One of Obama's biggest problems is with business and economics - he has no experience himself (and therefore is unable to come with his own vision) and relies on the often conflicting opinions of business leaders and economists. Call it economic stew. Not meat, not vegetable, just a hodgepodge of stuff. He is so careful to try to satisfy everyone (mostly) that he ends up satisfying no one. Healthcare is a prime example. In any normal election cycle he should be voted out. But I would be surprised if the Republicans can pull that off.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Vbdad, your thoughts would be much easier to read if you adhered somewhat to conventional grammar and mechanics. Not dashes and elipses and fragments all over the place. Reminds me of Harry Knowles' move reviews at Ain't It Cool. --- okay that criticism is fair vs content. I have an international territory so my day starts about 1 AM ( usually on 4 hours or less sleep) - and if you see when I post- it's in between calls ( like now) late afternoon, so I am very lax on structure. btw- I was an English major as an undergrad- so it's not for lack of knowledge- it's just laziness I guess.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 In any normal election cycle he should be voted out. But I would be surprised if the Republicans can pull that off. --- me too, I watched that train wreck yesterday and have even less hope now they will field anyone electable. I saw no one
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I watched the first 45 minutes, and except for Perry inexplicably doubling down on trashing Social Security, there wasn't a single answer any of them gave that I didn't know was coming as soon as I heard the question.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I didn't watch the debate, but I bet I could write a script for it. In my version, Newt Gingrich strolls in the middle of it, carrying a golf club. He tells a few zingers, then excuses himself, explaining he is filming a special across the hall.
