Originally Posted By Darkbeer >>Most of the Republicans (and their media "supporters") made themselves look like idiots over this. And, frankly, they don't need any more reasons to look like idiots.<< So what do you think about the Democrats and all the time they spent "investigating" President Bush speech to students 18 years ago? Sounds like you think THEY were idiots back then... Talk about a DOUBLE standard....
Originally Posted By wahooskipper A double standard? In politics? You must be kidding?!?!?! I'm shocked. No, I am shocked and awed.
Originally Posted By mawnck <a href="http://rectonoverso.wordpress.com/2009/09/05/revolt-of-the-stupid/" target="_blank">http://rectonoverso.wordpress....-stupid/</a>
Originally Posted By DAR LA kids don't start until tomorrow. The kids here have been in for a week some two.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>it should have been pre-recorded and sent to schools via DVD or some other type of playable media<< Uh huh. How many copies of that DVD would have to be burned, how much postage would that involve? Then Obama-haters could get themselves in a lather about that expense, too. Burn millions of DVDs and ship them? LOL, that's great fiscal-conservative thinking there. >>Most of the Republicans (and their media "supporters") made themselves look like idiots over this. And, frankly, they don't need any more reasons to look like idiots.<< Yes, instead of sticking to logical things, they get very emotional and hysterical about Obama. Very early in this presidency, the volume by the GOP spin machine has been cranked to 11. Credibility starts to suffer if you screech and moan about EVERYthing this president does. They were as outraged about this, and the cop remark as they are about healthcare or the deficit. In their eyes, all equal offenses, worthy an all out hissy fit.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper It is pretty ironic that Gingrich looks like the reasonable one in all of this.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>It is pretty ironic that Gingrich looks like the reasonable one in all of this. << Have you noticed how they seem to be taking turns being the "good cop"?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I think that is a little simplistic. Gingrich has been a pretty level headed voice of reason for the past few years. I think private life has settled him down a bit. And, of course, the "good cop/bad cop" routine is employed with vigor by both parties.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Speech is over and was pretty much word for word what they released. Oh my, how the kids have been brainwashed....:/
Originally Posted By DyGDisney BTW, the best thing I've read on this was written in a comments section of an online newspaper. A woman writes: ""My daughter is opting out of it, as she thinks it may involve some sort of hypnosis which she prefers not to subject herself to. That is the beauty of a country where we have freedom of speech and the right to not subject ourselves to situations where we feel forced or pressured. No means no and I defy anyone who would tell a teenage girl differently or force her to do something against her will." A bit down the page, someone responds to her with this, obviously sarcastic reply: "I hope your daughter’s fear of presidential speeches improves. Teenagers often experience various situations or conditions in their adolescent development years that may affect them. Some children can easily be influenced by whom they associate with. These phobias could be related to her current social life or conditions at home and can be manifested in various ways. What you have described is somewhat unusual regarding the fear of hypnosis from a visual presentation. Have you asked her if she has had any other problems related to authority figures making public speeches? Does she fear making speeches in front of large audiences? I’m certain that she may accidentally see other presidential speeches in the future and you want to make sure that this doesn’t cause an adverse psychological reaction. However, you may want to consider taking her to a child psychologist or psychiatrist to see if there are any underlining factors that make her fearful.""
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Interesting to note... <a href="http://www.dailypilot.com/articles/2009/09/08/topstory/dpt-optingout090809.txt" target="_blank">http://www.dailypilot.com/arti...0809.txt</a> >>The president’s speech was available to read on the Department of Education’s website Monday, but because it was a holiday, principals, teachers and parents could not be expected to view it and weigh in before Tuesday, she said. The district will not stream the broadcast for several reasons, Boss said. First, because the speech is education-themed, the curriculum aspect needs to be reviewed beforehand for all ages, she said. Also, the Internet bandwidth to show it to the entire district would be too much for the schools and could “shut the district down,” she said. And lastly, it’s the first day of school for Newport-Mesa children and, logistically, setting aside a large block of time in the first hours of the school year could prove a nightmare for teachers.<<
Originally Posted By DyGDisney I watched the speech, it was about 5 minutes. If she considers that a "large block of time", then maybe she needs some review of elementary school math.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney I'm thinking less than 20 minutes. I swear it couldn't have been more than 5, but maybe if it was, 10 at the VERY most.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer OK, it was at 12 Noon, lunch time for many students on the East Coast.... And when I went to Jr./Sr. High, our periods were weird, something like 7:30 to 8:22 and then 8:28 to 9:10.... What are you going to do if the bell rings in the middle of the speech.... Schools had VERY little notice about this speech, and for many, it was the first day of school. And now you are asking for changes in the school schedule to fit the broadcast..... When a "period" is about 45 minutes, you are basically taking up the entire class, because after you get the students in the seats and role is taken, and a short discoussion after the speech, you have used the entire class time.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>The president’s speech was available to read on the Department of Education’s website Monday, but because it was a holiday, principals, teachers and parents could not be expected to view it and weigh in before Tuesday, she said.<< If only they'd leave the internet turned on for weekends and holidays. DB, you're reaching.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>What are you going to do if the bell rings in the middle of the speech....<< Gee, I dunno. Maybe tell kids a moment before the speech begins that when the bell rings, remain seated until dismissed -- you know, like during every other period? Exercise is good, but stretching this much can lead to serious injury.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Headline: President gives speech -- yet, somehow, nation survives. What's the next controversy, the White House Easter egg hunt? Good grief, GOP, get a freakin' grip, will you?
