Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>Yoiks! So when did the word "underground" become a verb? This is very unsettling!<<< Ha! Sorry about that! In my profession, we tend to co-opt words and make them into verbs because it's such an efficient way of specifying our intentions. It's just part of the jargon. My appologies.
Originally Posted By damon63 >No, the mountain itself would form a berm of sorts, blocking out all views of powerlines and convention centers.< Not from a distance. Grizzly Peak, in it's current form just isn't tall or wide enough to block some of the things that people complain about here. Considering that the designers were forced to include ther Paridise Pier Hotel into their designs, the Pier makes perfect sense where it is.
Originally Posted By tangaroa >Not from a distance. Maybe not from the Matterhorn, but from inside DCA, yes it would. >Grizzly Peak, in it's current form just >isn't tall or wide enough to block some >of the things that people complain >about here. *blink* GRR can't be that much shorter than Screamin, but Screamin helps block out some of that stuff on the other side of Katella. The only problem with screamin is that it's not centered enough to block out the hotels along Harbor (the hilton and westcoast hotels). Could you, think of any negative aspects that would arise from having GRR built in the back? >Considering that the designers were >forced to include ther Paridise Pier >Hotel into their designs, the Pier >makes perfect sense where it is. So? they could have easily painted the PPH brown and green and it would have fit into the nature theme of GRR. I don't see how the location of the hotel required the pier to be built where it is.
Originally Posted By Britain I'm not saying Paradise Pier shouldn't be exactly where it is right now. I'm saying that they should have swapped the whole National Park area with the Wharf/Expansion area. And tangora, while I believe they could have made a big beautiful "berm" out of Grizzly Peak, it is currently much shorter than California Screamin, almost half as tall.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<Could you, think of any negative aspects that would arise from having GRR built in the back?>> Yes. Lighting. Anaheim is in the northern hemisphere, so the sun is ALWAYS south of us. If GRR was at the southernmost point of the park, we would always be north of it. Every time we looked at GRR, we would be looking into the sun. GRR would ALWAYS be backlit. The lighting would be quite poor. Building GRR so that it faces south, into the sun, was one of the big design decisions that they got right for DCA. Contrast Space Mountain at DL and at WDW. WDW looks better than DL because at DL it suffers from the lighting problems described above. When you are in the park at DL, you only see Space from the north.
Originally Posted By tangaroa >Yes. Lighting. Anaheim is in the >northern hemisphere, so the sun is >ALWAYS south of us. If GRR was at the >southernmost point of the park, we >would always be north of it. Every time >we looked at GRR, we would be looking >into the sun. Ok I'm sorry, but this is absolutely not true! Sure the sun is almost always in the south, but it's arc in the sky is so high as to not make much of a difference. And to be honest, I've never heard *anyone* make the same complaint about Screamin' and the giant mickey head. >GRR would ALWAYS be backlit. The >lighting would be quite poor. Building >GRR so that it faces south, into the >sun, was one of the big design >decisions that they got right for DCA. I totally 100% disagree.
Originally Posted By cheesybaby <<Ok I'm sorry, but this is absolutely not true! Sure the sun is almost always in the south, but it's arc in the sky is so high as to not make much of a difference.>> The ultimate weenie of DL is the castle as you walk up Main Street. The space was designed so that the castle faced south and therefore received its best lighting. When you approach the MK at WDW from the monorail, you approach the entire park - and all its icons - from the south. The park faces south to receive its best lighting. The big weenie at Epcot is SE, which at first thought appears to be facing the north, since you see it first from the north in the parking lot. But almost all of the time you are inside the park, you actually are south of SE, so it in fact actually faces south, again to receive its best lighting. Not much a difference? It's lighting 101. Due to the (perhaps flawed) design decision of having DCA's entrance be on the north side of the park, the lighting is compromised, and therefore you need gimmicks like the big reflectors on the sun icon to make the lighting its best. WDI knew this and built GRR to face south. It's the icon of the park and it needed to be lit correctly. If the GRR lighting would be "okay" with it facing north, why isn't the lighting of the sun icon "okay" as well? <<And to be honest, I've never heard *anyone* make the same complaint about Screamin' and the giant mickey head.>> That's because the coaster is a latticed wall and not a solid wall. Light comes through the coaster because there are holes in it, and the sun is not blocked. If the coaster WERE a solid wall, the Mickey Head would always be in the shade, and its lighting would also be poor. <<I totally 100% disagree.>> I respect that. But you asked if I could think of any negative aspects whatsoever, and I did.
Originally Posted By driftwood714 tangaroa: "Ok I'm sorry, but this is absolutely not true! Sure the sun is almost always in the south, but it's arc in the sky is so high as to not make much of a difference. And to be honest, I've never heard *anyone* make the same complaint about Screamin' and the giant mickey head." Try taking a picture of California Screamin' right now around 4:30pm. You'll have the sun literally above and behind the Sun Wheel. Doesn't make for a good photo. Sorry, but depending on the time of the year the sun is in different places. During the Summer months, it's usually overhead literally. During the Winter months it hangs much lower to the horizion.
Originally Posted By Dabob <Sorry about that extra "in".> You must be channeling Paul McCartney. "But if this ever-changing world, in which we live in..."
Originally Posted By Jim in Pasadena CA see, I always thought it was.. "But if this ever changing world, in which we're livin'..." So there you go. Don't get me started on Elton John's 'Rocket Man'
Originally Posted By Dabob <Don't get me started on Elton John's 'Rocket Man'> LOL!! I hear that. As for Live and Let Die, I've got the sheet music somewhere, and it's got the superfluous "in" in it. I even saw a McCartney interview in which he was gently called on that particular lyric, and he sort of sheepishly said something like "yeah, well it fit the music better." My other favorite on these lines comes from Mr. Mellencamp: "I cannot forget from where it is that I come from."
Originally Posted By Nobody And who can forget THIS timeless classic: "...for there ani't no-one for to give you no name"
Originally Posted By JohnS1 How 'bout "Baby I'm a want you, Baby I'm a need you." Now what was THAT all about?
Originally Posted By Dabob Dave Barry skewed that nicely with "Baby, I'm-a too lazy to think up a line that scans, so I'm-a just throw in an extra syllable."
Originally Posted By Jim in Pasadena CA John S1 -- you funny! Three topics -- with all funny stuff from you. You funny!
Originally Posted By JohnS1 I always figured that members of the group Bread were dedicating that song to their Italian relatives: Baby I'm a want you Baby I'm a need you, Baby I'm a gonna breaka you face if a you ever leave a me.
