O'Donnell questions separation of church, state

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    Originally Posted By utahjosh

    I like the first amendment.

    I don't believe it prohibits prayer in congress or similar things.

    I would hate to have a state religion in America - even if it were my own.
     
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    Originally Posted By barboy2

    ///it ought to be very clear the Democrats didn't cause the mess.///


    Sure they did, along with their alter ego the Repubs.
     
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    Originally Posted By barboy2

    ///Catholic in 16th century England.///

    I think you meant "1600's" instead, right?

    Because that was when a Protestant Parliament, headed by an obstinate Puritanical leader in Oliver Cromwell and his "New Model Army" aka "Roundheads", dethroned(via chopping block) a Catholic Charles in the 1640's.

    Ya, being a Catholic during that civil war would not have been too much fun.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Charles I was a Protestant, actually. He married a Catholic, and many Puritans were afraid he could be a "secret Catholic" (sound familiar?) or that the kids might decide to become Catholic via their mother, but Charles I himself was not.

    His second son, James II, did in fact become a Catholic, which is what brought about the "Glorious Revolution" (i.e. bloodless coup that installed William and Mary).

    "Charles was never a Roman Catholic, and firmly refused all urgings to become one, saying that he believed the Church of England to be more truly Catholic than the Church of Rome. However, there were many Roman Catholics in his family. His mother, Anne of Denmark, had converted to Rome. His own wife, Henrietta Maria, a French princess whom he had married in what was originally a political alliance but ended as a love match, was a Roman Catholic. His oldest son Charles became a Roman on his deathbed, and his second son, later James II, became one while still healthy, and lost his throne on account of it. It was accordingly not surprising that the Puritans accused him of being secretly disposed toward Rome, and that they regarded all his moves toward religious toleration as part of a Roman Catholic plan to seize the government. "

    <a href="http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bio/92.html" target="_blank">http://justus.anglican.org/res.../92.html</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    Hey I just briefly read a book about the Constitution this morning. It was in a class for special needs children.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    "I'm very glad the Separation of Church and State exists in America, I'd hate to see the Vatican and Pope Ratz take control of our Religious operations here (you know they'd dearly LOVE to...don't kid yourselves!)."

    You know, even if there were 9 Catholics on the bench I doubt they would toe the Vatican's line. They already have a majority and yet Roe vs. Wade hasn't been overturned, which is a BIGGIE in Catholic circles. Just remember that most American Catholics are only "culturally" Catholic. They do birth control, eat meat on Fridays during lent, have premarital sex ... you get the picture. The devoted are a minority.

    I think you may continue to sleep well at night.
     
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    Originally Posted By fkurucz

    "I think you meant "1600's" instead, right?"

    I was thinking of Henry the 8th.
     
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    Originally Posted By FaMulan

    ^^Yep 16th Century. Henry VIII (not to be confused with Henry 8.0 <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/show/p0056cb5/henry_80/" target="_blank">http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/sh...enry_80/</a>) reigned from 1509-1547
     
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    Originally Posted By Labuda

    re: #95

    From the article:

    "If he and Karl Rove had said, look, she is articulate on the issues as many people after watching our debates were able to say...there was verbal support they could have offered as pundits, so to speak, that they chose not to for whatever reason."

    Just because 1000 people say the sky is mauve does not mean it's mauve. It's blue.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>Just because 1000 people say the sky is mauve does not mean it's mauve. It's blue.<<

    Hmmm. Looks black right now. With little white polka dots.
     
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    Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance

    So, does Christine go back to her top secret job where she gets all the super top secret information now that she lost?
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    Shhh!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    I'm sure she'll conjure up something new.
     
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    Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance

    That's true. I hear she was into witch craft. She'll just get her cauldron boiling and presto! she'll be a physicist or rocket scientist.
     
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    Originally Posted By Labuda

    *rim shot*
     
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    Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance

    It looks like she's already begun!!!

    <a href="http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/78000/Cookin-Coons--78498.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.freakingnews.com/pi...8498.jpg</a>
     
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