Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Ha! I get it...just change the "l" to an "r", heh. <---was really up way too late this mornin' before bed
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Well, they just called the MN governor's race for incumbent Republican Pawlenty. I can live with that. For a long time I had planned to vote for him. I changed my mind at the last minute because I felt that even though Pawlenty had done a commendable job as governor, I just could not accept the position he and the Republican Party took on values issues. As I said in another post, their values just aren’t my values. But we’ll be OK. Pawlenty was basically a very good governor and was considered a shoo-in for re-election until the recent massive dissatisfaction with Bush. Having the election this close shows the message has been sent. Every other constitutional office (Attorney General, Secretary of State, etc.) went to Democrats.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I don't think he's had that problem since he switched from Vioxx to Viagra...>> I prefer Independent elections.
Originally Posted By ecdc Webb now has an 8,000 vote lead over Allen. Still a tiny margin overall but perhaps enough to seal the deal on the Senate as Montana looks like it will also go to the Democrats.
Originally Posted By jasmine7 Well, Amendment 2 did pass here in Missouri, and you'd think the sky was falling to listen to the main talk radio show here in Springfield. We're only about 40 minutes into the show, and we've had callers saying questioning the validity of people's faith by saying that they don't see how any real Christian could be happy about the Amendment passing. We've had the host calling the Amendment an abomination and saying that we've opened a Pandora's box by passing it. Yes, I had qualms about the wording of the Amendment, but I felt that the possibility for cures was too important to overlook, so I did vote for it. I'm also ecstatic that Jim Talent got sent home. I was already planning to vote for McCaskill, but with every single Talent radio & TV ad, my determination became greater because I have NEVER heard such horrible and hateful ads as those were.
Originally Posted By DAR Okay a few things. Jim Doyle was re-elected as governor in Wisconsin, no real surprise there. The Gay Marriage referendum was turned down here. Nationally: President Bush-It's not the first or last time a President will have to deal with a House or Senate that is from the other party. Republicans-Can't say they didn't see it coming. Now they need to figure out what they need to do get control back. Democrats-Gloat for one day, then get to work. Tell us what you are going to do. Don't just say we're not Republicans come up with some ideas. Both parties-Shut your pie-holes and work together for the benefit of the people, NOT YOURSELVES.
Originally Posted By jonvn Tom Delay just was interviewed on Fox. He said that we will now no longer be able to win the war on terror, and that Nancy Pelosi will not be able to run the house, and that the democrats are going to ruin this country, and that we need to cut taxes, and so on. Sounded bitter. Oh, he also denied doing anything illegal. Which I'm sure is as accurate as the rest of his comments.
Originally Posted By DAR I just saw this on a Sports Blog I was reading about the election. It's rather funny: <<Powerlineblog.com. I just heard Bill Schneider report that, according to a CNN poll, 73 percent of likely voters are "angry about something.">> I'd like to meet the 27% who aren't angry about something.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "All I've heard is that Virginia has a mechanism that is rather automatic when the vote is this close. Any number of commentators are speculating that Republicans will use this mechanism if the vote remains this close, just as there was speculation earlier this evening that the Democrats would use it when Webb was behind by a whisker." Before I turned off Fox news last night, they had some Republican hack on with them. They talked about various automatic recount mechanisms, and then the host, Shep something or other, said "and then the lawyers, right? We'll see lawyers?" And the hack said "you better believe it. We'll in court on this one." So no tea leaves, just the party itself saying so.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Webb increased his vote totals by 6,000 or so overnight, so his outcome looks encouraging, although that state is obviously along way from being settled. McCaskill thanking Limbaugh is PRICELESS. Maybe the fat toad will shut up for a while. Who am I kidding, of course he won't, he'll just go on yapping. That's why he loses elections. Which of course must remind every regular here of a certain someone. When Bush won in 2004, there were some who were horrible winners. Gloated until they made enemies, which was the downfall of the GOP this time around because that arm of the GOP is likely what swayed voters this time around. So thanks beau, the Dems couldn't have done it without you and your big, fat mouth. But like I said before, the Dems didn't win so much as the GOP lost it. The Dems have to show they deserve this, because 2008 will be here before you know it.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Before I turned off Fox news last night, they had some Republican hack on with them. They talked about various automatic recount mechanisms, and then the host, Shep something or other, said "and then the lawyers, right? We'll see lawyers?" And the hack said "you better believe it. We'll in court on this one." So no tea leaves, just the party itself saying so.<< Thanks for the explanation. I should note, however, that "some Republican hack" and "Shep something or other" are not yet spokesmen for the GOP. But I will keep an open mind.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Continue being coy Dug, I really don't care. I'm sorry the Republicans blew too. They had a chance to do something good the last few years, but instead decided to become a unilateral entity, and it exploded, just like as predicted. And if the hack from the Republican party, who was a guest and identified as being from the GOP on Fox News, doesn't speak for them, who does, pray tell?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I'm probably going to get ripped for this but here goes. I woke up this morning and just like everyone else here heard the news. Personally this isn't much of a surprise. I also honestly believe that the outcome of this election is the best possible outcome for this country. The Republicans have had 12 years to make a change. And although I don't blame the individual Republican Reps and Senators, by large they have been ineffective in the outcome national policy. We elect Reps and Senators because we want them to be effective. For whatever reason either the President didn't listen to them ( which I believe is the case ). Or the President just refusd to take the Reps and Senators concerns seriously. National domestic policy has been a disaster. I'm sure many Americans have found this Administrations policys confusing to say the least. How can you justify fighting a war on foreign soil but doing nothing to protect our nations borders? How can you say your tough on crime but anxious to grant amnesty to 20 million criminals. The Republicans worked hard to loose this election. It was their loss they own it. My only regret is that there were not more third party candidates on this years ballot. We would be refreshing to see some REAL change in Washington DC. Rather than more of the same Dem/Rep fighting going on.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>And if the hack from the Republican party, who was a guest and identified as being from the GOP on Fox News, doesn't speak for them, who does, pray tell?<< With no coyness, I really want to know WHO was speaking. If it was a party spokesman, fine. If it was a consultant, it means nothing. If it was a pollster or commentator, it means even less. But here, I'll give this to the thread since the Usual Bot is not yet up and around: <a href="http://www.drudgereport.com/" target="_blank">http://www.drudgereport.com/</a> While the head reads "VA SENATE... MT SENATE... Lawyers Dispatched... ," The linked article doesn't mention any lawyers, but then Mr. Drudge may just be engaging in wishful thinking.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer I agree, KT - the GOP was eager and hungry for change in 1994, but they got fat and lazy and - most importantly to the voter's who went to the polls yesterday - corrupt. That's not to say the Democrats weren't that way before 1994, or that they will be that way again in the future. I agree with everything you said in your second paragraph.
Originally Posted By fkurucz I guess Bush now has a congress that will be more amenable to the Amnesty/Guest Worker Bill he has been wanting so badly.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Can't wait to tune into Sean Hannity's radio show today. That punk will be crying a river...
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<the GOP was eager and hungry for change in 1994, but they got fat and lazy and - most importantly to the voter's who went to the polls yesterday - corrupt.>> TS, I think its more than just that. I think more importantly the Republicans got greedy. What was with all thise spending bills? Bridges to no where? President Bush never got out his VETO pen till a bill about Federal funding for Stem Cell research appeared upon his desk. Here is a classic example of Nero fiddling while Rome burned. Since 1994 when the Republicans took control of the House and Senate an estimated 20 million criminals were allowed to enter and remain in this country unchecked and for the most part unimpeded. Here's a phrase no one ever heard before 1994, "for english press 1".
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<Can't wait to tune into Sean Hannity's radio show today.>> Sean is on suicide watch right now.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Can't wait to tune into Sean Hannity's radio show today. That punk will be crying a river...<< I can't picture Mr. Hannity actually crying. I predict that by the end of the day there will be any amount of analysis basically stating that this election really wasn't all that unusual, historic, or important. Various midterm elections will be cited, individual races will be spotlighted, and numbers will be painfully tortured. But, in the end, no matter how thin they slice it, the Republicans lost Congress in 2006. The end.
