Originally Posted By cmpaley >> As I've said before, Angelides ran an awful campaign. How awful? The most remarkable/memorable moment came when John Kerry made a gaffe. But I also believe that the Governor learned that going hard right isn't what the people want. He likes being popular, and I think he was sincere in his apology for the special election.<< He's also said that he "went too fast" and that he still wants to implement every one of the funky four he tried to foist upon us. Now that he has absolutely nothing standing in his way, I think we'll see his true, far right, colors. Once again, I hope I'm wrong on this, but I seriously doubt it. Fortunately, it looks like extremist right-wing regressive McClintock will NOT be Lt. Governor, so Schwarzenegger can't allow that coup d'etat to happen (i.e., Schwarzenegger resigns, leaving McClintock in power).
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>>>The guy running against Bustamante was the second. I mean, REALLY . . . )<< That would be Steve Poizner. I have no idea what Bustamante will do next, but I hope it doesn't involve comfort eating.<< I just can't vote for a person whose name sounds so close to poison. Poisoner? Scary!
Originally Posted By jonvn "Now that he has absolutely nothing standing in his way" If he ever wants to be elected to anything else, he won't. Some of the things he proposed weren't half bad. They were all couched in sharp rhetoric, and a couple of the things targeted average people. He'll either learn, or be kicked out of politics at the end of this term. Or maybe even recalled. He knows its quite possible.
Originally Posted By DAR <<But what it sounds like is that they are saying what people want to hear.>> But what exactly are they saying? I don't want just hear blah blah we're not Republicans blah blah we're not Bush. <<That they all want to work together and that the sharp and useless partisanship is hopefully going to be put aside. Maybe it will, and maybe it won't. But they are at least saying the right things.>> They are just as guilty of this as the Republicans are. Maybe that's why Joe Lieberman moved to Independent status.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Already Limbaugh is stuttering and stammering to explain how conservatives didn't really lose last night and painting Nancy Pelosi as the boogeyman. And he dredged out the oldest line in the book -- the republicans lost because they weren't 'conservative enough.' Spin it, baby. The dittoheads need to hear this nonsense more than ever this morning.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<the GOP will start running on it's traditional messages and values instead of running on fear and division.>> Their campaign messages were 1) We're not Democrats; which got them no where. 2) We will not raise taxes; meanwhile they are out spending money like drunken sailors on things like a toilet museum and a bridge to no where. 3) We will keep you safe; while doing nothing to protect our nations borders. "For English Press 1"
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Yes, less focus on investigations, and more focus on imidiate issues like Iraq and the economy. The digging around will only get them so far...just move on. It is a good sign though that there is no gloating or mandates yet...no poor winners at this point. I just hope the Dems can keep above the partisanship and actually make things work.
Originally Posted By jonvn "But what exactly are they saying?" I was referring to comments like the end of strong partisanship, and hopefully they will be able to work together, that sort of thing. I think that's what people want to hear out of their government, not that those people over there with a D behind their name are out to destroy America. I don't see any gloating. They are trying to look like people who feel they have a job to do. Republicans have taken to this as if it were some sort of petty children's game. It's not a game, it's running the United States of America, and the Republicans have ignored that small little part of the equation. "like a toilet museum" There is a toilet museum? Where?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<-- the republicans lost because they weren't 'conservative enough.'>> I still say the reason why the Republicans Reps and Senators lost is because they have been almost entirely ineffective in regards to domestic issues and policy. The American voter felt they were not being heard by the White House. So yesterday the American voters sent the White House a message the only way they could. Its a little late for the White House to start listening to the "pulse" of the nation.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>I don't want just hear blah blah we're not Republicans blah blah we're not Bush.<< I think it's far more important for the Commander in Chief to have a plan in Iraq than for Congress to have one. This idea that the Democrats should have a plan for Iraq will be important for the 2008 election, but right now their job is to make sure that Bush's plan is effective and reasonable. From <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/08/pelosi.speaker/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI CS/11/08/pelosi.speaker/index.html</a> Pelosi has said that in the first 100 hours of her speakership she will push for action implementing all 9/11 Commission recommendations on national security, raising the minimum wage to $7.25. eliminating corporate subsidies for oil companies, allowing the government to negotiate Medicare drug prices, imposing new restrictions on lobbyists, cutting interest rates on college loans and supporting embryonic stem-cell research. As for Iraq, Pelosi and the Democrats have yet to explicitly outline their plan for U.S. involvement in the region, but unlike many of her counterparts, Pelosi voted against authorizing the war. And what about the persnickety allegation that she will skipper tax hikes through the House? Sure she will, said the shoo-in speaker. "We will revisit the tax cuts at the high end in order to give tax cuts to the middle class," she said.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom jonvn, here. <a href="http://www.worldmag.com/articles/11746" target="_blank">http://www.worldmag.com/articl es/11746</a>
Originally Posted By jonvn Teapot museum. In Sparta, North Carolina. TEN MILLION DOLLARS! Great. Didn't get to the toilet museum, have to subscribe. What city is it in? I need to go.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Already Limbaugh is stuttering and stammering...<< And the beat goes on! (Thanks for sparing me having to tune in, 2ny.)
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>"Now that he has absolutely nothing standing in his way" If he ever wants to be elected to anything else, he won't. Some of the things he proposed weren't half bad. They were all couched in sharp rhetoric, and a couple of the things targeted average people. He'll either learn, or be kicked out of politics at the end of this term. Or maybe even recalled. He knows its quite possible.<< Recall Schwarzenegger? Count me in!!!
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I must have gotten that wrong. Its a teapot museum and the World Toilet Summit. <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12169524/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12 169524/</a>
Originally Posted By jonvn John Tester just projected as winner in Montana. All the Dems need now is Virginia, and they get the Senate.
Originally Posted By DAR <<Pelosi has said that in the first 100 hours of her speakership she will push for action implementing all 9/11 Commission recommendations on national security, raising the minimum wage to $7.25. eliminating corporate subsidies for oil companies, allowing the government to negotiate Medicare drug prices, imposing new restrictions on lobbyists, cutting interest rates on college loans and supporting embryonic stem-cell research.>> I'm fine with all these, but you know something valuable is going to be lost in all this.
