Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Does that mean we've run out of things to attack at Disney? Heaven forbid.
Originally Posted By figment1986 *jumps onto the correct railroad tracks* I know Monsters Inc Laugh Floor was closed around 9:00pm yesterday night during the Halloween party, they even had a sandwich/info board outside the attraction stating that. Also, not sure if its cutbacks or supply problems but the "never smile at a crocodile" segment along with some seconds and the whole Milificent segment from Happy Hallowishes was missing last night.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Happy Hallowishes without Maleficent is 100 times worse than Spectromagic with no Chernobog. What are they thinking?? Mal's my favorite Disney character.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris "I know Monsters Inc Laugh Floor was closed around 9:00pm yesterday night" I don't really know if this is a negative thing or not.
Originally Posted By bayrr326 <<Also, not sure if its cutbacks or supply problems but the "never smile at a crocodile" segment along with some seconds and the whole Milificent segment from Happy Hallowishes was missing last night.>> No one seems to know if the reduction of pyro in Hallowishes, Wishes and Illuminations is due to cutback or the firework shortage. I hope it is because of the shortage because it would tick me off that they would shorten Hallowishes to save a few bucks for a party you paid extra for.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros There's a firework shortage? How exactly did this come about? I don't think that fireworks have been any more popular this year than in the past, and to my knowledge there wasn't a crop of high-level shells that got knocked out by a storm or anything. I'm not terribly familiar with the fireworks industry in general, but it seems like the kind of thing that would be fairly consistant, both with manufacturing and demand, every year.
Originally Posted By nats 31 This is not a political board and Obama and Mccain have no business being discussed here. Now to get back to WDW: I have been going there since 1974 and the place used to be spotless. All light bulbs were always lit. Up until the late 80s early 90s it was this way. You would never see holes in the seats on the monorails. I can remember that when you waited on line in the sun, there were air cooled pipes overhead keeping you comfortable. I know that people want thrill rides, but there should be more attractions that the whole family could enjoy. WDW IS NOT CEDAR POINT.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 ^^^Not arguing with you. But back in 79 when I first went, there were no misters or fans blowing the mist. Those have been a great help in the heat.
Originally Posted By sharpc """Really? I thought some of us hated Disney and sat in our New Mexico trailers creating online personas that make them appear to be more important than they are, so they can rip mid-level Disney managers?""" I was under the impression that The Spirit resided in Southern Florida, a few hours away from WDW...
Originally Posted By sharpc """From now on my business goes to Universal where there doing the smart thing and expanding and building rgith through the depression so that when business gets good again there gonna take off like crazy because tehy will have all kinds of stuff like Harry Potter ready and open to experince. I'll also go to DCA in 2012 if everything there promised is open. Although I dont care much for cartoon tie-ins I will go to check out Cars Land and Little Mermaid because that is the ambitious immersive entertainment that I am looking for. """ Because Small children are sooooo going to want to see Harry Potter over Winnie the Pooh. The only people going anywhere if this self-reference depression continues are going to be people with younger kids, and the well established upper class. Teenagers, and college kids aren't necessarily going to have the money to just go off to Universal any time.
Originally Posted By sharpc """^^^Not arguing with you. But back in 79 when I first went, there were no misters or fans blowing the mist. Those have been a great help in the heat.""" Not to get any more off topic here, but where I live, a few words in your post have a little bit different meaning than is generally accepted as pc.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris ^ It must be a very different meaning to where I live because I could see nothing wrong with the sentence.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 ^^^Thanks, I certainly meant nothing that wasn't pc. I was pointing out that despite all the extras that we have been complaining have been cut at WDW, the "things that allow droplets of water to fall upon our heads" have been added. Did I word that better, or is it worse?
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey PC, shmeecee. There's nothing wrong with that sentence. If you want PC, go buy a new computer.
Originally Posted By bluebayou My husband and I live here in Orlando so we visit the parks quite often. We have been going to Universal a lot the last few weeks for Halloween Horror Nights. I can tell you there is a BIG difference in our experience between Universal and the Magic Kingdom (where we went last night.) Universal offers passes for their Halloween Event which are 60.00 that can be used 13 times (wed, thurs and sun.) That is 13 nights of entertainment. Every year, they go and make their event bigger. More houses, more scarezones, more entertainment and yet their price did not go up. This in dark contrast to disney who with their halloween event - made the fireworks shorter, gave out cheaper candy, killed the free photo that was sent to your house and RAISED the price. Last night, we while at the magic kingdom, we noticed the following: Buzz Lightyear actually had rips in the walls as well as the dirtiest queue I have ever witnessed. The portion of food we were given was smaller than ever before. I actually got charged 3.25 for what amounted to 4oz of chili. The toppings bar had significantly fewer toppings available. There were no little cups for your ketchup, mustard, etc. (I blame the quality and quantity of the food decreasing significantly because of the disney dining plan. Disney is figuring people are getting a bargain for the food anyway because of the plan so why bother with quality? Let's see - maybe because some of us don't have the plan and actually have to pay! We deserve some quality.) The bathroom in fantasyland was almost unusable. I have been to gas station bathrooms that were cleaner than that. It smelled horrendous and 5 stalls were completely disgusting. I almost actually walked out, it was that BAD. Overall, I was very disappointed with last night. Oh and let's not forget the chocolate cashew patty I bought from the candy store which has not only gotten smaller in size and higher in price but is now actually subcontracted out as opposed to being made fresh.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I am at WDW right now (well, not this second since I am staying off property at a fraction of what a discounted Disney room would cost) ... and I was debating whether or not I'd even put up any observations at all because, frankly, the highlight of my visit has been spending time petting the ponies at FW (a shout out to Ralph one of Disney's big boys in the barn who is a regular LP reader too!)and walking outdoors since the weather has been great -- overcast and breezy. Illuminations and my sundae on Main Street were both highlights as well. You notice I am not really talking about much park-related? And while there are plenty of things going right here, food is a total disaster and Disney has finally got me eating almost all meals off-property. The price increases -- in order to 'Cruise Line' WDW Dining -- are absurd. $38 for a steak at the Brown Derby? $26 for the veggie entree at Jiko ... less than two years ago it was $16. Sorry, but Disney Dining just ain't that magical. Across the board portions have been cut as well ... what I was served at Yakitori House was embarrassing ... $8.49 for what amounted to a plate of white rice with one small scoop of fatty beef. Disney's cutbacks are smack dab in your face and what's all the more galling is that Lee 'the Amway salesman' Cockerell's book about leadership is being pushed all over property (even though Hyperion didn't even publish it). It was when Lee rose to power at Disney and the consultants came in with him and pushed their 'empowerment' movement that WDW was broken into many pieces. Every time I see a lead/manager/suit walking around in WalMart (maybe J.C. Penny on a good day) attire with lanyards dangling and cell phone and Blackberrys onstage that I realize how far WDW has fallen. Where's the sense of show? Of quality? Nothing like a fat manager wearing Dockers in Frontierland, while talking on a cell phone to immediately take me out of any sense of the old west. Get what I am saying? Is it still a nice place to visit? Absolutely. Walking around the World Showcase Lagoon last night was blissful. But the place is a pale shadow of what it was, so I just try and enjoy the best parts ... dining used to be at the top of the list, now it's more atmosphere, seeing friends, maybe hitting a few favorite attractions. But I digressed ... food is a disaster unless you're stupid enough to have bought the DDP or maxing out that last credit card you have no intention of paying back. And please don't get me started about the strollers and ECV nightmare ... the parks aren't even crowded and you can't escape them.
