Originally Posted By Labuda bill - thanks - I really LOVE it that you're saying that instead of saying what you really mean, which I imagine to be something along the lines of "go to Hell for thinking for yourself." You're SUCH a good Christian, aren't you? As for my God? He's a pretty nice guy as long as he doesn't go all Old Testment on your ass. Some call him Yaweh, I call him God, and my sweetie calls him Allah. That just chaps your hide, doesn't it? To know that those horrible Muslims worship the exact same God you do? HORRENDOUS! As for living under the sea, no thank you! I have an irrational fear of sharks - kind of like bill's fear of things he's ignorant about.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Not learning about your significant other's religion is not a bad thing as long as both parties agree to live that way. If one partner doesn't care and the other partner is fine with that, life goes on. They just choose not to share that aspect of life with each other. I'm an Atheist. My girlfriend is part of the growing, "I'm not into organized religion but I think there is a higher power." crowd. Life is good.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones To add, I honestly don't care what her religious or spiritual affinity is as long as I don't have to do anything I don't want to do. I don't make her do things she doesn't want to do, which is good, because I don't do anything when it comes to religion.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***That just chaps your hide, doesn't it? To know that those horrible Muslims worship the exact same God you do?*** When my Grandpa the Protestant married my Grandma the Catholic, his sisters informed him that in doing so he would never have a day of happiness in his life. He laughed as he told that story at their 50th Wedding anniversary. If Mrs. X and I had been born 40 or so years earlier, our families likely would've vehemently opposed our relationship, perhaps even disowned us for it. Oh, and I believe that legally we wouldn't have been able to marry, anyway. Born 80 years too soon, and either of our families would've killed us, or called the police to do it for them. Islamics are simply the target du jour for racists and bigots. Kudos, Labuda, for having the guts to ignore them!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed X. Even over here, my step Dad's parents never really accepted us because we were Americans....
Originally Posted By KCCHIEF Labuda....I think you are very smart to learn all you can. I loved my husband very much....and he loved me. I don't think that I added that after 14 years of marriage....his family---2 brothers, sister-in-laws and his mother came over to "visit" us.....they stayed for 2 years....they were use to maid service and it was a life changing event for all of us..... Life for us changed drastically......and he readily admits now that he made decisions based off what they wanted ....instead of what he wanted to do. I was very young and while that is not a good excuse......it is truthfully the only one that I have. I (if had another chance and know what I know now) would have done things differently also.
Originally Posted By Labuda "Not learning about your significant other's religion is not a bad thing as long as both parties agree to live that way." On one hand, I agree with you, Spokker, but OTOH, my boyfriend prays 5 times a day. That is a BIG part of his life, so I feel like I need to know something about it. Especially in case he ever becomes more than a boyfriend. I want to make sure I would know, for example, how to behave around his family. I'm pretty sure that if they're strict followers of Islam, I shouldn't wear one of my usual low-cut shirts, for example. Throw on a turtleneck or something for them. heh "Islamics are simply the target du jour for racists and bigots. Kudos, Labuda, for having the guts to ignore them!" Yeah, it even bothered me when I went to get a haircut a week or two after 9/11 when my hair dresser mentioned wanting to nuke the Middle East to Kingdom Come. She had been my hair dresser for a good 4 years at that point, and I never went back. I'm not down with hating entire groups of people just because of a few bad seeds. (Note: I reserve the right to hate all Nazis until the day I die.) Oh, and I'm great at ignoring other people. One of my Towering Strengths in life, I'd say. hehe But, seriously, I believe in judging people on a person-by-person basis. I do always try to see the best in people, but I do it with a wary eye. For example - right now, everything with Imran is all sunshine & roses - he's a gentleman, he's nice, he's funny, he's intelligent --- and I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop because right now, he's just super groovy IMO. So far, the only bad thing is that he travels on business a lot. But, he's trying to get a job locally where he won't travel much. "What's irrational about a fear of sharks?" The fact that if I'm in a pool and you say "shark" I will be out of that pool in 5 seconds or less. The fact that I avoid aquariums because I may SEE one in there. That combined with the low incidence of actual attacks on human beings. Heck, I had one guy I worked with about 9 or 10 years ago put a pic of a great white jaws agape and bloodied in a frame on his desk to keep me away. It worked. KC - wow, you know, that's one thing that Imran has told me about his upbringing and his ex and why he's divorced. He now feels bad for having treated their servants the way he did when growing up, and he hated that when he was married his wife had 4 maids for their house out in Cali and the maids did all the house work, including raising their daughters. So, his daughters (age 2) are now in Dubai with his parents where his Mom is raising them until he brings them over - which he plans to do in about 2 years. Anyhow, yeah, the maid service thing wouldn't fly with me, but I'm DARNED glad his dad has a hospital to run - if things ever got to the point that Imran & I made a serious commitment (more than just the current boyfriend/girlfriend thing), I would not take kindly to having his family move in, except for his babies. Anyhow, time will tell as to if he and I will end up together for the long run, but in the meantime, I like him, I'm having fun, and if this does end, hey - I've learned about something I didn't previously have knowledge of (Islam).
Originally Posted By pecos bill Labuda, if you were to take the trouble to read my posts, you would be aware that I am an Atheist, and worship no God. I also suggest you read your own posts, where you will find that I never had to resort to adolescent name calling to get my points across.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>you would be aware that I am an Atheist<< The goddess Atheia absorbed him like a sponge.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I'm beginning to think this thread is a lot like Road Trip's threads about his new relationship. I would imagine neither he nor Labuda wanted to get into the pros and cons of their personal lives, especially since it's none of anyone's damn business. They just wanted to share what's going on with people they've come to know. Simply because it's on a discussion board is not license to offer up unsolicited opinions about the merits of it all. If so, they would have mentioned/asked that, too. In short, if what you're about to post might antagonize here, then don't do it.
Originally Posted By Labuda Ah, so you're an Athiest. Got it. Why the heck does it bother you, then, what imaginary person my boyfriend worships? And, forgive me for treating you the way you deserve to be treated based on your comments.
Originally Posted By Labuda Thanks, SPP. Yeah, bill can make all the comments he wants, but I'm not going to let his idiocy interfere with my quest for knowledge. Most folks in here have simply been smart and given me information without saying "ZOMG, YAY!" or things to that effect. That's exactly why I posted this in WE and not in Community.
Originally Posted By pecos bill So you can post about your personal and religious life on an international website, in a section known for its political volatility, but nobody, even being well within community standards, should dare say anything that may offend you? Got it! However, despite your indignation, I get the feeling that you guys enjoy the controversy. However, I dont have the time, nor the inclination to argue with you all, as obviously, this place is dominated by an exclusive clique.
Originally Posted By KCCHIEF I certainly don't want this to come across .....like the Roadtrip thread. I had not even thought that it sounded like it at all. And I guess, I should clarify ....for the record (for those who are keeping count)......I have been posting on this thread about my first husband.....when Joseph left me (my second husband)....I even went and stayed with my first husband and his new wife for a couple of weeks......strange....yeah, I know......but, like I said....we are very good friends....
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I dont have the time, nor the inclination to argue with you all<< Why not? What happened between Sunday evening (post 18, the "just shut up" post) and today?
Originally Posted By Labuda mawnk, he was telling me to shut up in post 18, I think. And I'll be damned if I'll put up with a man telling me to shut up.
Originally Posted By mawnck I wouldn't worry about it, Ms. L. I just found out we're in an exclusive clique! I'm in with the in crowd! I go where the in crowd goes!
