Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Re: 213, if the DNA wasn't faked I think it may be possible that Catherine's heart was one of the ones Regina had in storage. And though she may be alive neither Daniel nor the Huntsman can return because their hearts were crushed to dust.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 As for Regina hating Snow so much. I think it could be that her anger is misplaced. Yes, she should be angry at her mother, but I'm guessing that she is too afraid of her. So, she is basically directing her hatred of her mother onto Snow. The fact that Snow betrayed her trust just made it that much easier for her to focus all of her anger on the little girl. I'm sure she's upset with her, but I honestly think she's also pinning the anger she has toward her mother onto Snow. So, that would be my guess as to why she's so singularly focused on ruining Snow's life.
Originally Posted By EmmaJayne ^ do you think then it could one day lead to an episode where she forgives snow?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros It seems unlikely, but is there a chance that Catherine is some sort of a riff on Sleeping Beauty? I know that she's supposed to be Midas's daughter, but that would explain why she 'died' and then turned out to be okay. Seeing the spinning wheel in the logo for next week's episode (Does the logo always change for each episode? I just noticed it a couple weeks ago) got me thinking about it. It's probably because they're going to do more information on Rumplestiltskin, but there's always a chance, since they've combined and rearranged stories before. Plus, we know that Regina and Malefacent are friends. At the very least, I suspect that Rumplestiltskin's spinning wheel is the same one in Sleeping Beauty's story, whenever we get around to it. And I also noticed in the voiceover at the beginning of the episode that they distincly refer to the residents of Storybrooke as being everybody's favorite "story book characters", rather than from fairy tales, which explains the Alice stuff. I guess they have a much wider range than we initially thought. Thinking about the older episodes, I'm pretty sure they've always been story book characters, but I just equated that to fairy tales (which would make Midas fit more...kind of...but still not really...).
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I'm glad new episodes are back on. I enjoyed last night's episode. I have no idea who August Booth is suppose to be from the enchanted forest. Any suggestions? In a teaser for the next episode he tells Emma he is a storybook character. Also, I wonder where Rumplestiltskin son went. There seems to be a lot of fluff in this series. I really would like to see more storyline.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Well, last night the answer to that question was revealed. But last night's episode also left us rather uncertain as to whether we liked it or not. Something seemed to be missing. But it was good to see Emma stand up to Regina again in her quest to get her son, Henry, away from the evil woman.
Originally Posted By Scutr I had come up with 3 possibilities for August's identity. The first was that he was Henry from the future. That doesn't seem likely given the way the show's going. The third possibility was that he was Rumple's son. According to last night's episode, he's not. So that's out. That leaves the second idea I had come up with......I think he's Pinocchio. I've been looking for that iconic Disney character to pop up in the series all along. At one point I thought the sheriff might be him, but dismissed that fairly early. (correctly, it turned out) But last nights epi, made me think I might have it this time. Remember at one point he mentioned knowing a certain "Blue Fairy". He also seemed to have a mobility issue with his legs - could be his imminent "death" concerns his turning back into a wooden boy instead of a real one?
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Now I'm confused Scutr, duckling! ORGOCH: Surprise, surprise! ORWEN: Will you just go back to biting your toenails, old biddy! I'm confused because I thought last night's episode was trying to say that the young writer man WAS Rumplestiltskin's son--all grown up. Did I miss something? ORGOCH: Yeah--brains when they was passin' 'em out! ORWEN: I thought I told you to get LOST!! ORGOCH: That show got cancelled a while back! ORWEN: Help me, Scutr, help me!!!!
Originally Posted By lesmisfan i think you might be right, makes complete sense. it also know seems we know why rumple was doing all those favors and getting certain items, it was to make the curse and he used regina to enact it!
Originally Posted By Scutr When he grabbed the dagger and tried to use it to control Rumple, Mr Gold said, "You're not my son!" At that point didn't he basically come right out and admit that he wasn't Bey? Anyway I'm guessing we'll find out next week, as that episode concerns Pinocchio
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Their conversation was so confusing I didn't understand what they were saying to each other but just had the over-all impression that it was still a meeting between father and son. I guess we'll have to watch more of it to be sure. Anyway, thank you for your input--both of you and everybody else!
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom According to the dialog in last weeks episode it appears August is not Rumple's son. Perhaps he is Pinocchio. But he doesn't seem to have any attachment to Jiminy Cricket or Gepetto. You would think there would be some sort of attachment there. Everyone else seems to have attachments to former story book characters, Snow White-Prince Charming, Jiminy Cricket-Gepetto, Grumpy-pink fairy, Little Red Riding Hood-Grandma,Cinderella-Prince Charming.
Originally Posted By Scutr I would have gone back and re-watched that scene, but the ff function is disabled on ABC's OnDemand content (as well as NBC's and Fox's) and I didn't feel like watching the whole episode again. (grumble grumble)If I wanted to sit through their d#!n commercials I'd watch their shows when they air in "real time" in the first place!
Originally Posted By Scutr True Tom, the only people he seems to have had a connection to are Emma and Henry (and to the book), all of which added to the idea that he might be grown-up Henry. But then, Henry never had any dealings with the Blue Fairy. Not that we know of, anyway.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom In the last episode Henry asked the blue fairy for advice. She gave him the majic bean which "would bring him to another world with no power". So there was a connection between Henry and the blue fairy. I think it would be much more intresting if August was infact Pinocchio. Anyway, we will find out more in next weeks episode.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb That was Bey, not Henry. Henry is the grandchild of storybook characters but is entirely of this world himself.
Originally Posted By lesmisfan im starting to think he is pinocchio since he does have a connection with the blue fairy and she did say that he was trying to reconnect a lost connection with his father and we know geppato does not have his son with him in this world.