Originally Posted By DDMAN26 I'm enjoying the show still very much. It's a fun way to spend a Sunday night.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I've been super busy recently, so I just now got a chance to watch the episode and catch up on the comments. I agree that it seemed strange to introduce a potentially-interesting character, only to kill him off so soon. Until this episode, I wasn't sure how much Regina remembered of the past, but given the secret heart-crushing crypt under the graveyard, I think we can assume she's entirely aware of the past. I've never seen Dynasty (it was way before my time), so I can't really comment there. >>Has anyone else considered the notion that the wolf isn't actually a wolf at all?<< Perhaps a sheep in wolf's clothing (to play with the theme in the episode)? I'm not sure what it is, but there is definitely a lot to it. If you remember back to the pilot, shortly before driving off the road and crashing, Emma saw a wolf crossing the street right in front of her car (presumably the same one, since there aren't supposed to be any in Storybrooke). I don't know what character it would be (Big Bad Wolf and Peter's Wolf seem too obvious/not related; there are other Red Ridinghood characters, so that's a possibility), but it definitely appears to have a fee will and its own motivation. It will be interesting to see how it turns out. And for what it's worth, ABC currently has all of the episodes online 'for a limited time' if anybody wants to catch up on one you missed, get some details, or get a friend started on the series from the beginning.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I have been trying to figure out who the actor is that Emma is on a date with at the begining of the pilot episode. He isn't listed in the list of characters and I know I have seen him in some TV show or movie.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Ryan (Emma's 'date') is played by Canadian actor Warren Christie, whose credits include L Word and Battlestar Galactica: <a href="http://www.tv.com/people/warren-christie/credits/" target="_blank">http://www.tv.com/people/warre...credits/</a> If you ever want to know about a particular actor in a TV show, check out tv.com. Their info is usually fairly detailed.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Thanks skinnerbox. I just looked him up. I recognize him from Alphas.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: One thing about this new series that bothers me is how the writers have re-written the original fairytales--like Snow White, for instance--giving them all new back stories just to make things fit into some sort of contrived plot that ends up making you think Snow White isn't really Snow White after all. She's a totally different character who just happens to be named Snow White. The original Snow White wasn't a thief and the original plot to have her killed had nothing to do with any secret she told about the wicked queen. While it's also true that the writers have managed to create something interesting as a result, I think they should have just left the fairy tales alone and come up with their own, original stories without trying to attach them to existing classics. But, then, perhaps they were too insecure over the idea of simply being totally original.
Originally Posted By Scutr >> they were too insecure over the idea of simply being totally original.<< Hollywood bean-counters can't handle "totally original", it gives them sh!t fits.
Originally Posted By Scutr Good episode this week, I thought, at least as far as Rumplestiltskin's back-story is concerned. The election just seemed to be a contrived plot device to frame the back-story and keep Emma in the local PD. Sadly Brad Dourif's talents were, yet again, grossly underused. (he's such a good actor, but the man keeps getting these crappy, throwaway, guest spots) Overall, I'm really liking this show a whole heckofalot more than I expected (or wanted!) to.
Originally Posted By amazedncal2 We saw the trailer for the upcoming "Snow White and the Huntsman" movie. I couldn't help compare the actors to "Once Upon a Time." A blonde queen? Interesting. Now back OT. I forget what favor Rumplestilskin gave Emma. Help please
Originally Posted By Scutr To be honest, I don't remember exactly what it was, either. I remember her agreeing to owe him a favor and Henry not being happy about it but I can't remember exactly what it was for.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Oh! I can tell you what the favor was! Emma wanted to help Cinderella out--or I guess her name was Ashley in the present day story--by making a deal with Mr. Gold to not take Ashley's baby away. So Ashley got to keep her baby while Emma is now obliged to do whatever Mr. Gold asks of her.
Originally Posted By amazedncal2 Thanks Witches. I have NO recollection of that...likely I was snoozing through it
Originally Posted By Scutr Ah, that's right! Thanks, Orwen! I'd blow you a kiss but I wouldn't wanna make your sisters jealous
Originally Posted By amazedncal2 I'm getting confused. So these kids have been in Storybrook for awhile and no one has noticed them? They have school uniforms? Am I being too literal? Guesses on who the new person is? Are they suggesting that when someone leaves Storybrook then someone else can enter?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom They seem to be making up the plot as they go. I suppose Hansel and Gretel survived on their own for a several hundred years.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Yes, the writers really do seem to be making things up as they go--which concerns this coven of witches because this is what happened with LOST. Some of the same writers from LOST are also writing this. We just hope we don't end up wasting our time on THIS series the way we did with LOST. ORWEN: Yeah, 'cause LOST left a lot of loose ends untied and confusing. We thought LOST was out of control and disappointing.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I never watched Lost. But Once Upon a Time is getting a bit bizzare.
Originally Posted By EmmaJayne Ok I finally gave up on waiting for it to start here and downloaded them all.. And I'm in love. At first there seemed to be a few plot holes that were bugging me but the more I think it through, the more it sort of makes sense within the show.. So my thoughts on this Hansel and Gretl thing.. Nothing was changing until Emma entered the scene right? So Ashley had been heavily pregnant for 28 years but as time continues to reset/ replay as their memories have all been muddled, nobody notices that she has been permanently like this.. But suddenly Emma starts the clock ticking again so she goes into labour, delivers Alexandra etc.. Which brings us to Hansel and Gretl.. Realistically they've just flown under the radar living alone.. Because nobody remembers their past or time properly, the assumption from teachers etc would be parents enrolled them at school, and that they must have parents. Eg Mary Margaret says the teaching staff had no idea which makes little sense in our world, but give. The curse they are under, it actually makes sense. The main thing bothering me is that Henry must be the only child who ages? As he isn't part of the curse and we know he only arrived in town ten years ago.. This to me explains why he has no friends in town and is so convinced about the whole curse/ fairy tale life thing.. He realizes that he is the only one who ever changes.. No wonder he is in therapy! I hope it's something that touch on soon.. As for the new guy.. He may be Henry's dad? I doubt his a fairytale character or he'd have been there all along? I think he is just further proof of how things in Storybrook are changing.. Like they once had no visitors then Emma arrived and now others can too.. Very interested to see what comes next.. Honestly hoping we see only fairy tale characters and no Greek myths.. I was a little thrown when King Mida showed up in that episode and also, not loving how Disneyfied the tales are.. I truly love Disney of course but I also love the rich history of fairy tales.. I had little girls I babysit reject a picture book of Cinderella because it wasn't the Disney one and that bothers me. whilst the Disney toons are great, they are just one interpretation of the classic tales often with alternate endings and additional characters/subplots.. But it was good to see Hansel and Gretl as it's one of the rare fairy tales to be both well known and non- Disneyfied.. Much like Rumpelstiltsken who is by far my favourite character..
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<At first there seemed to be a few plot holes that were bugging me but the more I think it through, the more it sort of makes sense within the show..>> Some plot holes are becoming more glaring, IMO, and are truly starting to bug me with each new episode. EmmaJayne pointed out a few, like Henry being the only kid who's aging, or how everyone has been in Storybrooke for 28 years and is blissfully unaware that their lives don't change, or that they cannot leave, or how nobody comes to town, until now. It doesn't make any sense that folks wouldn't wonder about this stuff, watching the mayor's son grow up while the other kids don't. But the biggest plot hole for me involves the mayor/evil queen. She's outside of these magical mechanisms within Storybrooke, because it's her spell. BUT... she's *in* Storybrooke, not back in Fairy Tale. She seems to be trapped there against her will. Why else would she want to stay? Power brokers rarely banish their enemies to 'the void' and go along for the ride. That's the point of banishment. But she's there with them? Why? Did the spell backfire? Does that mean Mr Gold or someone else we haven't been introduced to yet has even greater power than the mayor/evil queen? If that's the case, then I'd like for this plot development to appear soon. I'd starting to get a bit bored with the show and the 'detours' we're taking with characters like Hansel and Gretel whom I doubt we'll ever see again.
