Originally Posted By Dabob2 I would LOVE a proper San Francisco area to go in that space. Done right, it could be the NOS of DCA, with winding streets and 3-4 story buildings that would block the view of most things if you were among them.
Originally Posted By jonvn You know, there really aren't any winding streets in SF. There's a couple, but 99% of the streets are completely straight. Unlike the population, I guess. But a SF area, built up on hills? It would shelter some of what people complain about with regards to seeing out of the park. Along the edge of the park might make a nice place for a SF area that incorporated that.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I know SF fairly well, and I know it has few winding streets. However, as a design, it helps make a relatively small area seem larger (a la NOS), and it could work as a romanticized version of that city. The same way people often say that Main Street doesn't really look like any actual small town main street; it looks the way such a street looks in our idealized imagination. I like the idea of hills, but once you get too steep, you start making it difficult for the elderly or people in wheelchairs. (DL's fairly gentle hills already generate complaints). Perhaps there's some clever way to make some fairly gentle slopes that SEEM steeper than they are via forced perspective and the like.
Originally Posted By jonvn Well, what you could do is sort of what they did in toon town, and put up facades that look like streets of SF victorians on them on hills, while the walking area would remain flat. You could use forced perspective on them to make them look like they go back a long way, too. Winding streets would be better in a theme park, yes. The alleys in chinatown are cool. I give walking historical tours of the area. Very interesting location.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "I know SF fairly well, and I know it has few winding streets." I have lived in San Francisco for ten years, and other than that one famous block of Lombard Street and some bland residential areas around Twin Peaks, there aren't any notable winding streets in this town that would make sense for DCA.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 But it wouldn't be a literal SF anyway - it would be a stylized, romanticized version of it, as NOS is. As jon said, the hilly part could be mostly illusory for starters. And the streets and squares wouldn't be literal replicas, but a stylized representation. Given that, and the demands of theme parks, winding would work.
Originally Posted By jonvn Vermont in the portola (?) district is also windy. Some around there and bernal heights. Not exactly theme park material!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "But it wouldn't be a literal SF anyway - it would be a stylized, romanticized version of it, as NOS is." I suppose. The French Quarter in New Orleans is, however, very similar to what one sees at DL. You are right though about the effect of the winding streets - there are no winding streets in the French Quarter but it does work at DL. What I would hate so see at DCA is a postcard version of San Francisco that doesn't really capture the city's spirit (No clanging cable cars or Alcatraz characters, please). The horrible rendention of the GG Bridge at the park's entrance and the featureless replication of the Palace of Fine Arts are the kinds of things I'm talking about. What might make more sense would be to take one neighborhood (Chinatown, Fisherman's Wharf, Union Square, North Beach...) and try to replicate it in spirit and style.
Originally Posted By jonvn Isn't that bridge simply ghastly? I didn't notice the Palace of Fine Arts being that bad, but the bridge is just wrong looking. They need to raise the cables up about 15 or so feet, or pull the towers apart further about 30 feet to make this thing look better.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Yes, the GG Bridge is just too doggone small and the towers are scrunched together. Jon, here are two images that compare the detail between the two Palace of Fine Arts (San Francisco/DCA). The Disney version lacks the magnificent sculptures of the original. Here is the orginal building in San Francisco: <a href="http://community.iexplore.com/photos/journal_photos/palace_of_fine_arts" target="_blank">http://community.iexplore.com/ photos/journal_photos/palace_of_fine_arts</a>(1).jpg DCA: <a href="http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/5/51/300px-P2130126GoldenDreams_wb.jpg" target="_blank">http://content.answers.com/mai n/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/5/51/300px-P2130126GoldenDreams_wb.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By labretbear The DCA version of the Palace of Fine Arts rotunda is missing the weeping women.. Ever notice that the Golden Dreams theatre is a scaled down version of the Masonic Auditorium on Nob Hill? Like the faux PoFA rotunda a lot of detail is missing, but the main design eliment is there.
Originally Posted By lesmisfan Bean, i don't know if you can say anything about this or not, but i heard a rumor, and i know some rumors aren't true but wanted your take on this if possible. I heard a rumor that disney has the idea of making muholland madness an enclosed ratouille ride. is there any truth to that rumor.
Originally Posted By Britain I hope not. I'd rather have some sort of restaurant/show with little AA's running around.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <you are right though about the effect of the winding streets - there are no winding streets in the French Quarter but it does work at DL. > That's all I'm saying. NOS looks and feels like the French Quarter, even though it has winding streets such as you don't find in the actual FQ. Winding streets could work for a SF section at DCA too, even though it wouldn't be a literal representation.
Originally Posted By bean "Bean, i don't know if you can say anything about this or not, but i heard a rumor, and i know some rumors aren't true but wanted your take on this if possible. I heard a rumor that disney has the idea of making muholland madness an enclosed ratouille ride. is there any truth to that rumor." Actually its partially correct. Think more of a indoor coaster/darkride (now why does that sound familiar) based on ratatouille. It most likely would not go where Mullholland is but more in the area where -- excuse me anyone know where i could find out who helped turn Yosemite into a national park? --
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Ever notice that the Golden Dreams theatre is a scaled down version of the Masonic Auditorium on Nob Hill?" I live about 3 blocks from the Masonic Auditorium. I never noticed any similarities.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "...excuse me anyone know where i could find out who helped turn Yosemite into a national park?" John Muir?
