Originally Posted By jonvn "love how people get so over excited on something that is not final yet." As has been said to you repeatedly now: 1) It's another cartoon based ride. It's too much of something that doesn't even belong in these areas. 2) The film from which the ride is based has nothing to do with the theme of the area. The best that could be done is if somehow the rat shows up in SF, and works in a French restaurant, which is thin at best. It's basically a stupid attempt at trying to stay within the boundaries of theme. "the other funny thing is that f the attraction is built within a nicely detailed area it will most likely have very long lines." And, of course, that is all that matters. I am reminded of Rocket Rods, which also had very long lines. Be that as it may, long lines have nothing to do with what people are talking about here. "If i am not mistaken a couple of you declared that Nemo was a mistake and that it would not keep a consistent line after the inicial passholders. " Yes, you are mistaken. People were saying that the ride would have four hour lines all summer, it has not. I personally said that after this summer, when most people have gone on it, it the line would dwindle down to a reasonable time. It seems it has already done that. That ride will always have long lines on it during busy times because of its capacity and loading issues. It always did. Even when it was dead, it still took a while to get on the thing. "As for character attractions, people are just going to have to get used to it." And here we see the pride of the inept. They can't figure out that Disney was quite capable of specifically creating attractions without characters and being quite popular. But since these guys can't seem to figure it out, they have to do it this way to make sure the company makes money. Basic ineptitude. So, the people doing this now, were they the ones feeding all the horrible comments about DCA because it was built by a separate team? Seems like they are doing their own bad design and construction. Sure, the stuff will look very pretty, but it seems that's all they understand. In the meantime, they will go merrily on their way to trashing a 40 year long legacy of creativity. Thanks, WDI, and whoever else is in the company responsible.
Originally Posted By jonvn ""The Red Triangle", a surfing attraction where you get "attacked" by a white shark. " Universal did this too!
Originally Posted By Britain Wait a minute... Isn't Brad Bird's next Pixar film a live action piece about the great San Francisco earthquake? See! There's an attraction that will make everybody happy!
Originally Posted By danyoung >Even when it was dead, it still took a while to get on the thing.< Sorry, but this is kind of a silly statement. If it was dead, there would be no lines, no matter how low the capacity. DL's Pooh is dead, and has no lines. The old subs were always popular. They were only closed due to maintenance and high cost of staffing. Their closing had nothing at all to do with their diminished popularity. To my recollection, they always had 45 to 60 minute lines at just about any time of year.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Sorry, but this is kind of a silly statement. If it was dead, there would be no lines, no matter how low the capacity." Dumbo often has rediculous wait times. How many people can ride Dumbo in a given day compared to Pirates?
Originally Posted By Britain Not kidding at all. It would be an attraction tied to a movie property -making Burbank happy It would be a live action film stemming the tied of cartoon characters invading the parks -making Jonvn happy It would be based on a Pixar film -making Wall Street analysts (who still want to see more of a return from the purchase of Pixar) happy It would have a super strong connection to California -making theme purists happy Also, depending on how they execute it, it could be a richly themed experience, without needing to be a thrill ride. See, everybody's happy!
Originally Posted By jonvn "If it was dead, there would be no lines" When it was dead, it still took about 10 or so minutes to get on. Just waiting for the sub, and waiting for the thing to load, and take off.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Dumbo often has rediculous wait times. How many people can ride Dumbo in a given day compared to Pirates? < My brain is blown! What does that have to do with anything? Different attractions have different capacity. If a low capacity attraction like Dumbo has a 60 minute wait on the average day, then it's a hit. If a high capacity attraction like Pirates has 30 to 40 minute waits on the average day, then it's a hit. >When it (the old Subs) was dead, it still took about 10 or so minutes to get on.< Your memory and mine differ greatly. The Subs had 60 to 90 minute waits right up to the time they closed it.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> San Fernando Valley-- a behind the scenes tour of the more alternative types of film making.....(with guest participation and interaction). << LOL. Talk about "hip and edgy." But to be perfectly serious, the thinking that led planners to believe a restaurant in DCA themed to daytime soap operas made perfect sense really wasn't much less misguided than the idea of an attraction in a Disney park themed to, well, *other* forms of adult entertainment. Similarly, I do recall a businessman -- who I believe was formerly with the DisCo, investing big money (right around the time DCA premiered) -- in a large restaurant in Anaheim themed to movie or TV award shows. Of course, it flopped almost as soon it opened---which I suspected would happen, even as observed from a million miles away. That to me was one more example of horrible judgment, and not just a lack of enough money, being at the center of a failed business venture.
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> It could be a richly themed experience, without needing to be a thrill ride. << An earthquake attraction without "thrills"? I'm not saying they couldn't do it, but then what's the point?
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror >>>Wait a minute... Isn't Brad Bird's next Pixar film a live action piece about the great San Francisco earthquake?<<< Brad's next film IS about the SF Earthquake - but it's for Warner Brothers, not for Pixar. It's called "1906" and is indeed Live-Action. Warners made nice to him, by adding the Iron Giant and Hogarth to its famous "cartoon greats" mural facing Olive and Alameda in Burbank.
Originally Posted By Britain Well, when I said it didn't need to be a thrill ride, I meant it didn't need to have a height requirement, roller coaster, that sort of thing. It could still be very thrilling, but it could be something everyone can ride.
Originally Posted By jonvn "The Subs had 60 to 90 minute waits right up to the time they closed it." We are talking about different things. I was saying that when the thing was dead, it still took a while to get on it. That does not mean it did not have 60 to 90 minute lines up until it closed, just that when there was not even a line, it still took time to board and ride.
Originally Posted By jonvn "the thinking that led planners to believe a restaurant in DCA themed to daytime soap operas made perfect sense" That was a good idea. They just built a few too many places to eat that were costly, and they wanted to put in a kiddie show. So that was removed.
Originally Posted By jonvn "I's called "1906" and is indeed Live-Action." Amazing. What's next, a fun musical based on the Holocaust? Thousands of people died in 1906. People trapped in rubble burning to death horribly when the flames swept through. 250,000 people left homeless, lives and families destroyed, and businesses ruined. But, hey, I'll buy a ticket. Unless this is going to actually be a drama type of thing, and not some cutesy film....what exactly is it?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Maybe he can sneek in Remy, running through the rubble of a fallen restaurant.
Originally Posted By jonvn That'd be good. It's synergy, you know. People love these sly, "inside" sorts of things that make them feel like they're in the know on something. Oh, maybe they can also put in a couple of Incredibles characters, too. You know, to help rescue people? That'd be great.
