Originally Posted By Daannzzz As interesting as the Western River Expedition looked it also was abit to close to being a cowboy Pirates of the Caribbean. If they wanted to majorly modify the storyline and presentation of the WRE so that it wasn't so similar to Pirates that would be okay. If the Lone Ranger happened to be in there in a similar fasion that Captain Jack is in Pirates that would probably not detract from the ride to much.
Originally Posted By jonvn "it also was abit to close to being a cowboy Pirates of the Caribbean." That is the problem with it. It was supposed to be the POTC for Florida when it was designed. But something like that. So, I have to ask, who's excited about this new Lone Ranger movie?
Originally Posted By Britain I am, just because I thought Ted Elliot and ... um... what's the other writer's name... Whatever, the Aladdin/Pirates/Lone Ranger writers did an excellent job bringing back Zorro in 1997. I'd love to see what they could do with the Lone Ranger and a Bruckheimer sized budget.
Originally Posted By jonvn There was a Zorro movie in 1997? I seem to vaguely recall that. Did it beat out Star Wars in the box office?
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "The rreality is that their are several other projects in the works and they are not all based on Pixar or cartoons." Are they movie based? I bet they are.
Originally Posted By jonvn Already mentioned something based on The Lone Ranger. Yeah, that's gonna make just everyone just jump right down to Anaheim.
Originally Posted By danyoung >There was a Zorro movie in 1997? I seem to vaguely recall that. Did it beat out Star Wars in the box office?< Of course not. But it was a decent little movie, that did enough business to warrant a sequel (which I thought was also pretty decent).
Originally Posted By jonvn There was a sequel? Anyway. why can't they put in a ride in Frontierland that doesn't have a movie tie in anyway? Everyone loves pointing out to me how Big Thunder is this wonderfully popular ride. What movie tie in does it have? None, to my knowledge. Maybe that is what's wrong with it...
Originally Posted By danyoung I completely agree with you, jon, that there is no need for Disney to synergize EVERYTHING. They just feel they get more mileage out of attractions based on films. The films feed the ride, and the ride can feed dvd purchases. I don't mind the trend so much as long as they come up with really good attractions, and not all based on cartoon characters. As someone recently mentioned, the integration of the Pirates movie characters was pretty well done, and didn't detract from the fun of the original attraction. If they have to do the synergy thing, that's the way to do it.
Originally Posted By jonvn If they HAVE to. Thing is, it didn't really even add to the ride. It didn't make the experience any better. It was just a corporate act made by a bunch of tools who don't know what is good or not.
Originally Posted By BrnardM <<the Aladdin/Pirates/Lone Ranger writers did an excellent job bringing back Zorro in 1997>> I totally agree, but just to give credit where it's due, John Eskow is the fellow mainly responsible for that script.
Originally Posted By Park Hopper >>Someone spilled dout the info on a possible Ratatouille attraction and the upcoming "CARS" attraction and see the toys tory midway mania and think that everything from now on will be cartoon based and that WDI and Disney is taking the cheap and easy way out.<< Since the last three attractions that opened at the DLR (Buzz, Monsters & Nemo) were based on pixar movies and the next attraction scheduled to open (Midway Mania) is based on Toy Story, and since the only future attraction we've heard any rumors about is based on Cars, I'd say the attitude is not unwarrented. >>The rreality is that their are several other projects in the works and they are not all based on Pixar or cartoons.<< I am extreemly glad to hear this and look forward to more news regarding these non-pixar attractions.
Originally Posted By dshyates I'm weird in that I don't care what a ride is based on as long as the ride isn't lame. A hair raising ride on Mulholland drive could be an awesome experience if Disney were to try it. Just imagine. Test Track Techno. Some No Doubt blaring out of the 7 speakers and the subwoofer under your...What? Mad Mouse coaster? Ummmm???? WTF?
Originally Posted By Sweeper Lone Ranger or Zorro, I don't get it. The 50's are gone and so is that genre. UNLESS Disney can call on Johnny Depp and a script as good as Pirates?
Originally Posted By bean they also said that {irates was old and the gebre was gone. Guess what its allive and bigger tthan ever
Originally Posted By jonvn Who said the pirate genre was gone? Lone Ranger isn't a genre. Westerns are a genre. The Lone Ranger is a character. I mean, it's kind of silly. Why not do a movie and a ride based on Hopalong Cassidy? Bruckheimer also did King Arthur a couple years ago. That was not very good. The movie does not sound like it will be something successful at this point. I have no interest in seeing such a film. But we'll see.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Thing is, it [adding Pirates movie characters to the ride] didn't really even add to the ride. It didn't make the experience any better.< I completely disagree. And the millions of people who flocked to the attractions on both coasts disagreed. I couldn't wait to get my first glimpse of the new generation of AA's. And now after riding both coasts' versions, I still make a special effort to check out the newest additions. I think they were completely successful and well implemented.
Originally Posted By jonvn Did you ride the ride to see Johnny Depp? How is the line for the ride now as the newness and publicity have gone? Back to what it was before?
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt The ride is better now, but not because of Johnny Depp or any of the characters from the film. They could have made the improvements without the film references and it would have been just as good.
Originally Posted By danyoung >How is the line for the ride now as the newness and publicity have gone? < I didn't care so much for Johnny Depp as for the newness of the scenes and the cutting edge AA's. And it's unreasonable to expect any changes like this to continue to pull in high numbers for many years. It gave both parks a nice bump for the summer and then some, and now things have settled down again. In short, the modifications did what they were designed to do.
