Originally Posted By jonvn The thing is it could have gotten that bump without the movie tie in. Really, these things just are not needed.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster "the most popular attraction in DCA not only has somekind of thrill factor but also has a height restriction which in part seperate the families." Which makes the whole idea of adding characters to the ride kind of insane. The kiddies who would enjoy that sort of thing are too short to ride it.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Well true Churromonster, but that didn't stop them building Crush Coaster in Paris, a ride that has crying children coming off every day, and an attraction that my kids can't see the only AA's in the WDS because they are too short. So it is possible.
Originally Posted By bean you could see the AA's by riding the train. I a sure you are tall enough for that
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Will the train now go thru Screamin'? Seriously, bean, you only get a fleeting glance of a few of the AA's from the DLRR thru Splash Mountain.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Jon, You make an excellent point. Still, that is one ride that this adult enjoys over and over and over....
Originally Posted By jonvn Well, except one person in my family who won't go on it because they don't like those sorts of rides. I never get to go on Splash Mountain because of it. I know it's very popular, though.
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror Lots of little kids get to ride Splash Mountain. For the ones who aren't yet big enough to ride, 1) there's lots of other attractions for them to enjoy, including Pooh (yuck) across the way, and 2) it gives them something to look forward to. We always look back at our "first time" in various events as something of a rite of passage. So Disney making a terrific attraction that some kids can't ride because of height - it seems like a lot of pointless griping. Sort of like saying that DCA is an utter mess and an abject failure. Hey, wait...
Originally Posted By jonvn "Lots of little kids get to ride Splash Mountain." So...what? I know adults who won't ride it. And lots of kids won't, too. It has nothing to do with height. Even for those adults who do ride it, it's content is kiddie. So you have this wild flume track surrounded by cutesy stuff that does not correspond. I realize I'm not saying "DCA SUCKS," so you don't understand this concept, but that's what it is.
Originally Posted By Sweeper My point was IF they can come up with a great script...sure. On their own the 50's westerns, Zorro, and Lone Ranger just seem dead boring. And honestly, POTC movies added WAY more than traditional pirate stuff. They were creature features which made them much more.
Originally Posted By dshyates Being an abject failure and failing miserably to even come close to meeting the promises they made to the investors is 2 different things. And DCA isn't such a mess that a bulldozer and some talent can't fix it. They creative team that developed DCA were arrogant and patronizing. They were some gems for sure, but the blunders were glaring and insulting.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<Even for those adults who do ride it, it's content is kiddie.>> FWIW, this is DL, not Vegas. I expect it to be "kiddie". My inner kid loves these "kiddie" rides.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<They creative team that developed DCA were arrogant and patronizing. They were some gems for sure, but the blunders were glaring and insulting.>> Nothing that TWDC has ever created has made me feel patronized or insulted, and I honestly don't think they ever go in thinking, "As long as we slap the Disney name on it they will come." I just think that some of TPTB don't fully understand what the name Disney stands for, and what their audience expects from them as the leader in theme parks and animation.
Originally Posted By jonvn "IF they can come up with a great script...sure" The thing is that it's the Lone Ranger, with a very specific storyline. Unless they just call it the Lone Ranger, and do something entirely different, it's going to have a predetermined story. "I expect it to be "kiddie"." Then you have low expectations. They didn't used to do all kiddie things. "Nothing that TWDC has ever created has made me feel patronized or insulted" Me neither. The sort of extreme comments that we hear about some things are flat out ridiculous. Even the things I don't like, such as Splash Mountain, are far and away better than what's produced by other places and lots of people really like it. I don't care for it, so it sucks to be me. Just because I don't like something does that mean it's an abomination before the lord. People need to get over themselves.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf The Lone Ranger rides a horse and fights cattle rustlers and wiley injuns. It really is hard to imagine an attraction based on that theme. Let me be the first to say that I think this is a hoax. Basing an attraction on a non-Disney movie only makes sense when the movie franchise is ENORMOUSLY successful -- like Star Wars or Indiana Jones. There's no way Disney is going to build an e-ticket based on a movie that may flop in the box office.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Nothing that TWDC has ever created has made me feel patronized or insulted, and I honestly don't think they ever go in thinking, "As long as we slap the Disney name on it they will come." I just think that some of TPTB don't fully understand what the name Disney stands for, and what their audience expects from them as the leader in theme parks and animation." The first time I walked through DCA I was blown away. Blown away that either the people who built it had never actually been to a Disney park and did the best they could after someone described one over the phone. OR were trying to pass off State Fair quality attractions as a world class vacation destination. Given that these are the same people who DO in fact make world class vacation destinations, they know the difference. They just thought WE didn't.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Given that these are the same people who DO in fact make world class vacation destinations, they know the difference. They just thought WE didn't.>> Sorry, but I find that statement to be rather arrogant. You know those people personally? You were in the meetings and sessions when the Imagineers and management were planning it out? I just don't buy it. That they made some bad decisions, yes. But they intentionally designed crap and thought they could pull one over on their audience? I don't believe that.
