Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<you still think no one -- repeat, no one -- at the DisCo was affected by the hubris of "Let's slap the Disney name on it, and it will be good enough, or we'll get away with it!"?>> It's pointless for me to answer, as you made up your mind long ago about the people who created DCA.
Originally Posted By jonvn "It's pointless for me to answer, as you made up your mind long ago about the people who created DCA." Based on zero information. I think it's pointless to even bother to read things from certain posters anymore. You see the name, you know what they're going to say.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> It's pointless for me to answer, as you made up your mind long ago about the people who created DCA. << Oh, and you haven't?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss It doesn't matter what I think about those people. Most of the "evil-doers" you always point to don't even work for the company anymore.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> Most of the "evil-doers" you always point to don't even work for the company anymore. << And, were you an employee of the DisCo -- before and after early 2001 -- your opinion continues to indicate you certainly wouldn't have been one of the last people getting on that bus to Abilene.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I must be bored and stupid to keep answering the #1 troll on LP, but anyway... I was employed by TWDC at one time, but only at The Disney Store, from '94-'97. I was actually fired from my position there; my car broke down and I needed some cash, so I sold some Disney collectibles that I had purchased with my CM discount. I purchased the collecibles for my own enjoyment long before I need to buy a car, but that didn't matter to the company; they merely saw me taking advantage and decided to terminate my employment. You'd think I might have a lot of animosity towards the company, and I did for awhile. I find it fascinating that you only come to LP, and only to the DCA Future expansion section, and only to grouse about it. It's very weird. Everyone else participates in just about all sections, asking and answering questions, and generally enjoying and sharing Disney and even non-Disney experiences. You and couple others though, seem terribly (and negatively) fixated about a theme park and some people that you don't even know. What's the point? I don't see one.
Originally Posted By jonvn "I must be bored and stupid to keep answering the #1 troll on LP" You know, you're talking to a chunk of wood. "Everyone else participates in just about all sections, asking and answering questions, and generally enjoying and sharing Disney and even non-Disney experiences." It's interesting. Most people have varying viewpoints, can see the other side of things. But some people are fixated on one aspect, and are so far in the extreme that any positive comment about the place brands you as a corporate apologist. I don't read a lot of these posts anymore, just glom over them. I think the people who write them have some emotional problems. To be this hostile and negative over something like this is simply abnormal behavior. That one of these people constantly talks as if they are an armchair shrink really gives rise to the thought that they themselves have spent a lot of years in some sort of therapy. It doesn't seem to have worked.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Most people have varying viewpoints, can see the other side of things.>> Like tattoos?
Originally Posted By jonvn Yes. Can we have a tattoo section? We can create topics about tattoos, and I can rant at people like an old man endlessly about them, and it can all be done in one place. I watched an episode of Lawrence Welk the other day on PBS. Or tried to. I'm going to have to slowly adapt to it.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Good night Sleep tight And pleasant dreams to you Here's a wish And prayer That every dream comes true And now 'till we meet again Adios Au Revoir Auf Wiedersehen
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan << Trekkeruss: It doesn't matter what I think about those people. Most of the "evil-doers" you always point to don't even work for the company anymore.>> Outside of some management changes at Imagineering, many of the lower level “evil-doers†remain. The “creative clique†that had Fitzgerald’s blessing is still carrying on the concepts that had been developed under his management. So, while those who initiated inconsistent concepts may be gone, their protégés are carrying on their ideals.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss But as disneywatcher always says, they were all subject to his beloved Abilene effect... they only did what they did to save their own hides.
Originally Posted By jonvn Yeah, now that the prevailing attitudes of those who were in management at DisCo are gone, people should feel free to be able to express their true talents. I'm sure there was dancing in the aisles at their new found freedom.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom How about the Disney Company just fixes the disjointed lackluster ( undescriptive (( since I don't "get" any theme there anyway )) park they call DCA. Excuse me but what exactly is suppose to be "Disney" about DCA anyway? I know it has Disney in the name, but really. Oh, I forgot Disney Co bought Pixar, so Flick's Fun Fair is suppose to carry the parks Disney theme <sarsacm>.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss From where I sit, Aladdin at the Hyperion, and the Animation building is pretty dang Disney. So is Soarin' the ride, if not the building.
Originally Posted By Britain It's Disney because it's owned and operated by Disney. It could be Disney's Hardware and Lumber Park with nary a character in sight and it would still be Disney.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Then add in It's Tough to be a Bug. Mix in the high level theming of the Grizzly Area and the Winery. It feels just as Disney to me as Epcot or part of the Studios or DAK in WDW.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom EPCOT, The Studios and DAK all have Disney characters. I didn't see any Disney characters in DCA.
Originally Posted By disneywatcher >> I was employed by TWDC at one time, but only at The Disney Store, from '94-'97. I was actually fired from my position there; my car broke down and I needed some cash, so I sold some Disney collectibles that I had purchased with my CM discount. I purchased the collecibles for my own enjoyment long before I need to buy a car, but that didn't matter to the company; they merely saw me taking advantage and decided to terminate my employment. You'd think I might have a lot of animosity towards the company, and I did for awhile. << I'll give you credit, trekkeruss, for relating a bit of your employment history. However, I'm assuming you're being honest about it. That's because if I didn't know better -- and in regards to my curiosity about what I'd observe if I studied someone like you in the workplace -- I'd think you were creating a story just to play on the assumptions you likely guess I have about you. I'm referring to the source of your defensiveness and thin-skinned reactions to matters like the Abilene Paradox, or the Peter Principle, or any other issue that pertains to, and helps determine, the competency and suitability of a person in his place of employment. I'll just end this with one word: "Yikes!"
