Originally Posted By alexbook When did the pendulum swing back? Is it my imagination, or wasn't it just a few years ago that any hint of "chivalry" by a man towards a woman was attacked as "chauvanism"?
Originally Posted By friendofdd I think you are right Alex, but it was probably 30 - 35 yrs ago. Your age is showing. I still held open doors in those days and on only a few occasions did a "feminist" chastise me for doing so. Most people still said "thank you".
Originally Posted By Pixie Glitter It just chaps my hide when women are rude in the name of feminism. I'm as strongly in favor of equal rights for women as anyone, but that doesn't excuse being rude to someone when they have done something mannerly for you, like holding open a door. While I can understand that some women think the door holding is unnecessary, I don't think it's appropriate to make a political issue out of it by criticizing the door holder.
Originally Posted By belleoftheball After 12 years Gregg still opens the car door and any other door for that matter for me and I love it. I will raise Josh to do the same.
Originally Posted By Ursula ^ HEY!!! HI!!!!! And here, here (or is that hear, hear?) to door openers and their mothers who taught them well!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted By cstephens friendofdd wrote: > I still held open doors in those days and on only a few occasions did a "feminist" chastise me for doing so. To me, that means they're so tenuous in their own beliefs that they find something like this threatening. I wouldn't expect a woman to be offended at a man holding a door for them any more than I would expect a man to be offended if a woman held the door for him. If this happens again, say, "I'm sorry, I thought I was holding the door for a lady. Obviously, I was wrong." /cs
Originally Posted By mickeymeg I have a friend who always always trys to be so polite to everyone all the time. We sometimes tease him all and call him Captain Manners. He always trys to be there to open the door of his car for any female getting in. We usually let him do this, but if I happen to be there first it feels wierd to stand there waiting. This has turned into a bit of a game now and he will go out of his way, often defying gravity and leaping over the car or nearby objects to reach the door first so he can open it. Just his way of being polite and silly. I do appriciate when guys open doors and do the 'old fashioned' gentalmanly things for women. I always get warm fuzzies when my boyfriend opens a door for me. Think how much nicer it would be to go out to the mall or park, for example, and everyone was polite to each other.
Originally Posted By Loreigh I had one experiance when a man actually got mad at me for not waiting for him to open the car door. He felt that it was his reponsibility and was offended that I didnt give him the opportunity to do it. And another one that told me he thought I was fully capable of opening my own door and didnt want to insult me by implying that I couldnt do something so basic for myself. It could really go either way!!
Originally Posted By officerminnie <------ Loves it when a guy opens the door for her, and always thanks him. And agrees 100% with Pixie Glitter's post #43.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>It just chaps my hide when women are rude in the name of feminism<< I couldn't agree more. There's nothing wrong with a polite gesture. My dad still holds a car door open for my mum after 38 years and I'm sure if they had sons, he'd have taught them to do the same. I always hold a door open for someone behind me when I'm walking through it, but I think that's just common courtesy.
Originally Posted By Labuda I'm one who expects to have doors held open for me, and men to let me be first on the lift and first off the lift as well. And, I tend to make mental notes as to who does and does not let me on the lift before them. Just like today when I went to lunch with a co-worker - he held the doors open for me, AND (this freaked me out) - he opened the car door for me. Last guy who did that was DlandDug when he & I hung out at WDW (Jamie truly does have a wonderful husband - I got a teensy taste of what a gentleman he is that day, and I've seen the same thing over & oover again the couple of other times I've hung out with Doug). Anyhow, my buddy at work today really surprised me, as I figured he'd be one who didn't do that stuff based on, well, his behavior at work. Not quite a gentleman at work, but apparently it comes out if he's alone with a person! lol Oh, and my DH used to open car doors for me, but not so much anymore. Oh, well. At least my sweetie got a haircut & shave today - YAY!
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy I'm covering a fascinating series this week on TV Land called "Generation Boom" about different aspects of Baby Boomers' lives from the '50s through the '90s, where many celebs from that generation are interviewed. Tonight's topic is "Love" (see, "puberty, sex, gender roles, relationships, marriages"). I'm in the '70s portion right now, and during the Women's Movement segment, Leonard Maltin says this: "I had been raised that you, ya know, pull out a chair for a lady, hold the door, things like that. Suddenly, here I am in college having my first real relationships with young women, and some of them would shoot you the dirtiest look if you would hold the door for them. You know, 'How dare you?'". A little info nugget also popped up that said "Activist Gloria Steinem once said, 'A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.'"
Originally Posted By Capstan I parked my rig at a truck stop last week, and as I was going in a nice lady held the door for me! It was nice, except I almost fell over. Times change I guess.
Originally Posted By cstephens Yesterday, because I do it all the time, I held the door for two people on two occasions because they were right behind me. Instead of taking over holding open the door as they walked through, they just walked through without touching the door and without saying a word to me. Ummm, ok, I wasn't planning on being your doorman. I was just trying to be courteous but I guess the favor of an acknowledgement in return was too much to ask for! /cs
