opinions of "Meet the Robinsons" - (spoilers)

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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>When it comes out on DVD, willit be in 3-D? Can they do that with home DVD as it stands today?<<

    Not as such. The red-blue thing is the only 3D method that has a fighting chance of working through a regular TV set, and even that is highly dependent on how well you have the color calibrated.

    (Well, actually, there was that thing they did on the Superbowl halftime show several years back, which works, more or less, on any TV, but it requires the camera to be in continuous motion. Not exactly viable for a feature.)
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror

    What kind of 3D glasses were they using for the DVD release of SHREK3-D (otherwise known as Shrek 4D at Universal Studios) ? Weren't those polarized?
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    Yes - polarized glasses is the standard for theater viewing. There is also a technology for viewing 3D on a standard screen that requires special equipment - a modulator for the signal that goes into the tv, and also sends a signal to powered glasses that will "flicker" the signal from left eye to right. It actually works pretty well, but not as well as true polarized 3D lenses.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mrs Stageman

    I saw Meet The Robinsons on Good Friday and absolutely loved it. I love the wacky Robinsons, special guest star Magnum and the Baddie.
    Does anyone think that the hero looks like the boy in Jerry Maguire and Stuart Little and also the Baddie looks like the old British actor Terry Thomas?
    Look forward to hearing your views Disney fans
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>What kind of 3D glasses were they using for the DVD release of SHREK3-D <<

    Red-blue from these guys: <a href="http://www.3dglassesonline.com/3d-anaglyphic-glasses/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.3dglassesonline.com
    /3d-anaglyphic-glasses/index.html</a>
    The Shrek DVD also included a flat version in full color. A conventional TV's picture can't be polarized.

    Dan, do you have a link? That technology sounds interesting, and I hadn't heard of it.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    Sorry - I worked with it a few years ago, but I don't remember the brand name. Seems like it was Crystal something - Crystal Eyes? Crystal View? Something like that.
     
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    Originally Posted By gurgitoy2

    Do you think it would be possible with HD TV's? I mean, since there is no flicker, or scanlines, it might be possible?
     
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    Originally Posted By gurgitoy2

    It would be a good selling point to get people to buy HD-DVD or Blu-Ray if that's the case...along with that HDTV.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    >Do you think it would be possible with HD TV's? I mean, since there is no flicker, or scanlines, it might be possible?<

    You still have to deal with 2 signals - the one for the left eye and the one for the right eye. It's reasonable that HD's higher scan rates would allow two images with less of a visible flicker. But so far you still have to buy extra hardware to make it all work, which is a limiting factor.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    mawnck - here's the link for the equipment I was using -

    <a href="http://www.reald-corporate.com/scientific/" target="_blank">http://www.reald-corporate.com
    /scientific/</a>

    When we were shooting high quality 3D, we needed some way to view it while shooting to see if it was working. Up until we found this system, we would have to take 2 projectors out on site, calibrate the polarizing lenses, and have a darkened are where we could project. With the Crystal Eyes we could see true 3D on a regular monitor. It would flicker, and over long term it was kinda hard on the eyes, but it did provide a service that was invaluable to us.

    Sorry for the thread derail . . .
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    'Sokay, it's kinda relevant. And my question was answered.

    Y'know, I realized that I've thought about this movie every day since I've seen it, replaying an image in my mind, remembering a line of dialogue, thinking about a character or plot point, etc.

    It's a film that's just sticking with me.

    The Great Mouse Detective
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    basil/bakerst.html</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror

    Sticking with me, too.

    A much smarter movie than a lot of critics dismissed it for.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    <A much smarter movie than a lot of critics dismissed it for.>

    That must be it. I'm not smart enough to comprehend 'Meet the Robinsons.'
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror

    >>>That must be it. I'm not smart enough to comprehend 'Meet the Robinsons.'<<<

    Your words, not mine.

    "Comprehend" is very different from "appreciate from a different vantage point."

    If it's not to your tastes, yeah, that's one thing. Taste is pretty subjective, and I can understand this not being some people's flave.

    But the fact is, even with its flaws, MTR has a host of ideas swirling around a tight, unified core of themes, with some very sophisticated storytelling going on. And a pace that, in energy and design, MIRRORS those themes as well. That's pretty brilliant, considering what the last few years of CG animation have mostly brought us.

    If you can't appreciate THAT, then I'd say yes, you missed something. And possibly that your taste is overriding your willingness to see the strengths in the film itself.

    I hate "The English Patient". I think it's morals are despicable and it glamorizes infidelity. But I can appreciate how well it's made, how well the story is told, and the skill with which it excels other films of its ilk. That's one of the things that makes me mad about the movie - it DOES glamorize infidelity WHILE showing the consequences, and STILL, accomplishes its storytelling with such cinematic skill and verve, that the average viewer comes away thinking it was all just so wonderful an experience.

    It's not to my taste, but I comprehend that it's a well-told story, smartly executed, that resonates well after its unspooled.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    >>I am so tired and bored of all the cynicism, smugness, violence, overt pop-culture reference and "winking at the audience" that often passes for theatrical entertainment.<<

    A good observation. Ed Catmull commented on this subject in the LP red carpet interview. Asked what he felt audiences might find most amazing about Meet the Robinsons, he said, "This is a very sincere film."
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    >>I am so tired and bored of all the cynicism, smugness, violence, overt pop-culture reference and "winking at the audience" that often passes for theatrical entertainment.<<

    A good observation. Ed Catmull commented on this subject in the LP red carpet interview. Asked what he felt audiences might find most amazing about Meet the Robinsons, he said, "This is a very sincere film."
     
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    Originally Posted By Liberty Belle

    ^^ I saw a preview for "Happily N'Ever After" last night (before seeing Meet the Robinsons again) and it almost made me sad. I'm so sick of these "cynical" sorts of animated films that make money by poking fun at classic fairytales.

    Anyway, I took my parents to see it last night (in 3D, which was much more fun than the normal viewing last week!) They both really enjoyed it and mum said it was her favourite since Tarzan.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    <If you can't appreciate THAT, then I'd say yes, you missed something. And possibly that your taste is overriding your willingness to see the strengths in the film itself.>

    I stand by my review.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    I stand by mine too, and by Doobie's, and Kirby's, and all the mainstream press critics.

    That makes, what, 4 WDFA movies in a row now that our resident Disney insiders have been trying to convince us "oh, it was a really good movie, you just missed something/didn't watch it right/weren't willing to look for its strengths/got a bad batch of popcorn/whatever." Despite what we actually saw on the screen.

    The folks who made MTR may have ATTEMPTED to be sincere, to have a core of themes mirrored in its pace, and so on. But whatever good qualiites it had failed at completing the mission -- drawing us in to the story and entertaining us. And you're going to blame us for that? Come on now, that's DCA talk.

    I know a lot of very talented, very nice people worked very hard on this movie, that their hearts were in the right places, that they used all the filmmaking tools they could think of to make it as good as possible. I got all that. But that's not what you judge movies on. There's no A for effort.

    My earlier review (post 2) made all the points I need to make about this mess of a movie, so I won't reiterate here. But remember, WE are the audience. We are Disney fans, which is why we're here. We tend to love this stuff. We WANT to love this stuff.

    If your movie doesn't work for us and we're disappointed with it, that is not OUR fault.
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror

    >>>I stand by mine too, and by Doobie's, and Kirby's, and all the mainstream press critics. <<<

    Mawnck, I respect your posts and opinion very much, but frankly, all the mainstream press critics were not on record as looking at this film negatively. In fact, quite a few saw it just the opposite. A quick look at Rottentomatoes reveals that. Even the "Mainstream" or "Cream of the Crop" are more positive than negative, including Richard Roeper, both major Chicago newspapers, USA Today, Variety and many others, Entertainment Weekly (Lisa Schwarzbaum? Please! She can't review yesterday) and the New York Times notwithstanding.

    Heck, even the uber-cynical LA Weekly and macho-bent MAXIM liked the film.

    With a 65%, better than a lot of movies have gotten lately, the film's got a solid "positive" consensus.

    Again, I'm not overlooking this movie's flaws. There's a number of them. But it's the most sincere, sweet, fresh and "Walt-true" film that Disney Animation's put out in quite some time, aside from the better Pixar movies. Time's going to be kinder and kinder to it...

    The consensus on this LP board seems to be overwhelmingly vocal in favor of the film as well... So again, it's not to your taste, and I appreciate your exacting standard.

    But an awful lot of people have found it very entertaining, and heartwarming and satisfying, and the film's showing some legs.

    So someone, apparently, has discovered what's good about this movie.
     

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