Originally Posted By Westsider >>"Um, by his initial departure I think you mean his promotion out of Disneyland, to head of Walt Disney Attractions. So of course he would still get invited to stuff."<< Um, no, that's not what I meant. I have the correct dates. Paul Pressler was "promoted" out of Disneyland to Parks Chief in January, 1999. Paul Pressler resigned from Disney to head The Gap in September, 2002. Paul received invitations from September, 2002 until late 2003. Since late '03 he no longer is invited to stuff. When he was Parks Chief from January, 1999 until he left Disney in September, 2002 of course he was invited to stuff. They continued to extend that courtesy after he left the Company until late '03, then the invitations stopped.
Originally Posted By Westsider >>"I have seen Cicely Rigdon at many events over the years, including a fairly recent one. While she is getting a bit frail, she is far from senile."<< Perhaps senile is not the correct clinical term, but she is getting quite old. And for the Guest Relations CM who speaks with her on the telephone when something big with Ambassadors is coming up it is getting harder and harder to communicate clearly with this elderly lady. There are a few other words to describe her mental condition at present, but I'll just leave it as "difficult to communicate with".
Originally Posted By Westsider And as I typed that last post from a Wi-Fi lounge here at work a clip of Cynthia showed up on Cast TV, so she does still exist. The sound was turned down, as it always is on Cast TV, so I'm not sure what the subject was, but Cynthia is alive and well and appearing on TV on Disneyland property. See my Post #23 for info relating to Cyn's ability to still show up on property via Cast TV. It would really be impossible to remove her from history, unless they brought in some KGB agents and an airbrush lab. She just doesn't get invited to the parties any more.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Since late '03 he no longer is invited to stuff." So what happened right then that he was no longer invited? Sounds like he asked to be removed if nothing else.
Originally Posted By Nobody Perhaps it was preemptive on his part? "You can't stop inviting me. I already asked to not be invited."
Originally Posted By Nobody Perhaps it was preemptive on his part? "You can't stop inviting me. I already asked to not be invited."
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "That sounds like the same old claptrap that Marcie and the other apologists put out there to try to justify all the inadequacies that went on during the Pressler/Harriss years." Oh, so now my comments and opinions are lumped in with the "apologists". Um yeah, okay. "All I know is, there wasn't one square foot of new paint applied to the joint until long after Harriss was gone, and by the time she left, nothing had really begun, and there was barely enough time to get the park "spruced up" before the 50th events commenced." From what I remember the sprucing up began long before she left. The Rivers of America, for instance, was rehabbed before her exit and it sort of continued from there. By the time Matt arrived it was in full swing. Maybe he pushed for more fixing up, maybe he didn't - who knows? But whatever... people have their opinions and they are going to believe what they want, therefore there is no need to even bother continuing this discussion with you.
Originally Posted By mrichmondj Folks, Mr. Pressler and Ms. Harris are both executives at a publicly traded company. It is likely that Gap, Inc.'s ethics standards prohibit them from accepting invitations or entertainment from 3rd parties. In fact, I read the Gap ethics code and it specifically states that accepting such invitations without compensating the 3rd party from personal funds is prohibited. This is the difference between Mr. Pressler and Ms. Harris compared to folks like Card Walker and Dick Nunis. As Disney retirees, not bound to the ethical standard of another corporation, they aren't bound to turn down such offers or reimburse the company from their own personal accounts. I see nothing sinister about this -- unless someone can provide the names of other executives at the helm of publicly trade companies that are being invited to these things. Mr. Ouimet doesn't count -- he is still on the payroll at Disney during his transition to Starwood. I would guess that Mr. Pressler asked for his name to be removed from the invite lists since the ethics standard at Gap that he has signed his name on would prohibit him from ever accepting these offers.
Originally Posted By dresswhites when working at the park, i met pressler once and i met harris once. Pressler seemed very fake and not that interesting in the place he was running. Harris on the other hand seemed much more friendly. She did seem to have intereest in Disneyland. However, she was quite suited to running it. Some serious painting and rehab started before she left. the carrousel, small world, TSI were all projects done before she left. Tiki, jungle, and space were done after she left.
Originally Posted By Westsider >>"Folks, Mr. Pressler and Ms. Harris are both executives at a publicly traded company. It is likely that Gap, Inc.'s ethics standards prohibit them from accepting invitations or entertainment from 3rd parties."<< That works as an excuse until you start looking at the dates. Pressler received invites to Candlelight '02 and other events in 2002 and into 2003, even though he was CEO of The Gap at the time. Cynthia did not receive an invite to Candlelight '03, even though she did not begin working for The Gap until February '04. I don't have any info on what exactly happened within corporate Disney to make the change, but a change in the status of invites to Pressler and Harriss was made in late '03. And Pressler was employed by someone else for over a year before that, and Harriss wasn't employed by anyone at that time. Even if the dates did make more sense, they could still attend these social events. I'm sure publicly traded companies have rules about business ethics for their senior executives. But certainly executives can be invited to Christmas pageants and parties held by other companies without landing in front of an ethics review board.
Originally Posted By jonvn "^^(I honestly don't know how that happened.)" I do. If you accidently double click on SUBMIT, you get that.
Originally Posted By jonvn "^^(I honestly don't know how that happened.)" I do. If you accidently double click on SUBMIT, you get that.
Originally Posted By jonvn I think Pressler requesting to be taken off the list makes much more sense than some revenge fueled conspiracy suggesting otherwise. The whole story is basically ridiculous as it is being relayed here, and if it is even true at all, what we've seen here is not the entire story.
Originally Posted By kmovies Didn't a lot of good things happen during their tenure as well: Haunted Mansion Holiday Small World Holiday
Originally Posted By DlandDug Well... Hitler built the Autobahn and Mussolini made the trains run on time. So there you are.
Originally Posted By onlyme So, I'm a bit confused. Are 'we' upset that these two individuals weren't invited, or just looking for some type of consipiracy, or what?
Originally Posted By smeeeko ^um.. I usually stop reading a thread once the *H* bomb is dropped.. ol' rules of the internets y'know.
