Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Antonovich is grandstanding. It's protected speech, no matter how bad people find it.
Originally Posted By dlkozy LOL! >>>"I'm sorry, but you didn't even use the word "juvenile" first - again, just parroting it back. Sad, really."<<< And you just continue to act/look foolish Dabob-now you want to point out who used a word first-by the way-how was recess today for ya?
Originally Posted By velo >>And you just continue to act/look foolish Dabob-now you want to point out who used a word first-by the way-how was recess today for ya?<< I'm sorry, but there's only one person here that is acting/looking foolish. And it's not Dabob. And let's see, nope, not 2oony either.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 LOL! >>>"I'm sorry, but you didn't even use the word "juvenile" first - again, just parroting it back. Sad, really."<<< <And you just continue to act/look foolish Dabob-now you want to point out who used a word first-by the way-how was recess today for ya?> You know, it's quite sad that the person making the biggest fool of herself is invariably the person who doesn't have a clue how she's making herself look. Seriously - step back and take an honest look. It's at least 5 of us saying the same thing now, and it's got nothing to do with politics, it's got to do with your Jr. High-level tone and your pointless sniping. I said earlier you probably would not step back and take an honest look, and so far you've proven me right.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 You know, it's quite sad that the person making the biggest fool of herself is invariably the person who doesn't have a clue how she's making herself look. ----------------------------------------- dlkozy is consistent if anything. We've been down this road over and over. Same reactions, same behavior. Efficies (is that a word) are wrong pretty much in all situations. There's nothing clever or funny in using this form of "art" as a statement. It's wrong for Palin as much as Obama in my opinion. I think people have expressed that quite clearly here and all over the news. Are there lesser degrees and reason for outrage depending on the person, you betcha. Not sure how a sane logical person can't see that but then again...we have this thread.
Originally Posted By dlkozy And yet another person who added NOTHING to this thread except to be nasty-good job Lisann22! As has been pointed out by many others on other topics here in WE this month-listening to someone else's opinion doesn't happen much here=juvenilia is thrown around instead of constructive debate and idea sharing-too bad.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>juvenilia is thrown around instead of constructive debate and idea sharing<< Which "juvenilia"? The angry mob chanting for Obama's assassination? The Mormons and fundamentalists paying millions of dollars to take rights away from 10% of California? The GOP members using their official positions to stop hundreds of thousands of eligible voters from voting? The economy that's in the toilet because of years of government corruption? If you'd like to discuss more important issues, we can always talk about tasteless Halloween displays in West Hollywood some more.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan We listen to adults, dlkozy. But when people come here to throw a tantrum, not so much. You started slinging the insults first (post 15, in case you forgot), as you invariably do in world events and elsewhere on these boards. Up until then, most people agreed it was wrong. But this is a first -- a thread where there is pretty much universal agreement on the larger point (hanging in effigy = BAD), undone by your behavior. Brilliant!
Originally Posted By dlkozy K2m-you and others like you belittle what others say all the time-here and on the other sections. You consistently pick apart and twist around. My post #15 was in response to someone not reading what was written but what he wanted to read. I won't be bullied-and that is what happens on WE. But that point was brought out by others just a week or so ago-deny it all you want-but that is exactly why so many members don't tread in WE. And as for you accusing me of slinging-you sell yourself waaaaaay too short!
Originally Posted By Lisann22 If I just open a thread, read and comment on both topics at hand - you and Palin how am I not contributing? Aye yi yi! It's Lisa, call me Ms. Lisann22 if your nasty.
Originally Posted By barboy ///Antonovich is grandstanding. It's protected speech, no matter how bad people find it./// In addition to my #4 that might be one of the very few worthy posts on this topic. And I say "lynching" an Obama exemplifies free expression as well since he is a political figure.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains Okay I am confused... Everyone here basicly agreed with dlkozy about the effigy being wrong - But even though the Palin one is on private property and makes it nearly impossible to remove - And since it's on the news right now I can see it's a political statement because of McCain being burned in the same display. So it's not a threat to all woman or encouraging violence against women it's an anti McCain/Palin display. We all agree it's horrible. So then there is a question about the lack of an outcry over this because IF it had been Obama it would be so much worse (apparently said by someone on first thread - but not dlkozy) - apparently the IF person didn't realize there was already an effigy. But because the one of Obama (and again the second one found today) were taken down immediately - BECAUSE they were on Public Property so easy to remove.. So even though everyone agreed with dlkozy about how bad it is that someone thought it was funny to hang Palin and burn McCain... Somehow it's much worse than the two effigys of Obama (no sign of Biden in them) because she is a woman? Is that correct?? This is just crazy dlkozy - Since you say you read and know what's going on, I will guess you know that two white teens were planning to kill a bunch of black people and then attempt to kill Obama. And at many McCain rallies they have been chanting Bomb Obama... If there are death threats or people saying they are truely fearful of McCain/Palin I haven't seen of heard it... Maybe I just missed it. But the same cannot be said the other way. While the McCain/Palin display is disgusting it is no worse than those of Obama - The only difference is where it's displayed. If the Obama effigy was on private property it would still be there too.
Originally Posted By dlkozy My complaint which I have said over and over is that the outrage of the Palin effigy was non-existent (when I originally wrote my first post). THAT'S the difference. No one would call O's effigy an art form-but that's what they called Palin's. There were no news stories on TV with people laughing at O's effigy-they had people lauging at Palin's. The outrage and lack there of (for Palin's effigy) do not compare. This topic was about the effigy-not death threats, or other news (horrible yes, but not on topic here-but start one-might be interesting). >>>" Since you say you read and know what's going on, I will guess you know that two white teens were planning to kill a bunch of black people and then attempt to kill Obama. And at many McCain rallies they have been chanting Bomb Obama..."<<< Again, not on topic=a whole other terrible matter.
Originally Posted By dshyates I am beginning to really sorry for McCain supporters. I believe they have lost any grasp on reality.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I am beginning to really sorry for McCain supporters. I believe they have lost any grasp on reality.<< Which came first, the chicken or the egg? ;-)
